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Petition in favour of Brighton Terrace Drug Treatment centre

Bob said:
Almost at 50 people now.

That's better than the 10 letters of support the centre got on the first planning round. (not that anyone knew it was likely to be turned down :confused: ) Pubs next?
 
memespring said:
That's better than the 10 letters of support the centre got on the first planning round. (not that anyone knew it was likely to be turned down :confused: ) Pubs next?

Yup. Plus I think we can reasonably ask people who've signed to ask their neighbours etc. to sign.

Plus we have in Clive D an ex heroin user to give a users perspective. Plus we have a fair number of people who've worked on addiction to give their perspectives.
 
it might be worth taking the petition round the albert again tonight as there should be alot of people in for halloween.
 
linerider said:
it might be worth taking the petition round the albert again tonight as there should be alot of people in for halloween.

I don't think I can tonight (got work to do :( ).
 
Ive added a postcode column in the petition - if we can show people from accross Brixton are for the centre it stands more chance, It also helps show opinion by ward.

Brighton Terrace is also on the agenda tonight at CPCG public meeting (6:00 pm, Lambeth Accord, 336 Brixton Road ) With lots of council and police there and probably a sizable contingent of the anti treatment centre people from Trinity Gardens/Brighton Terrace.
 
Over 70 people now. Keep on encouraging friends / neighbours / relatives etc. to sign please. :D
 
Who enjoys receiving PM spam?

Bob said:
I've been emailing PMing people for a few days and got a fair few people on there - so I'm feeling a bit smug. :)

39 people so far

I'd be feeling smug too if I was a spammer. It's not so much a profession as a vocation, right?

People tend to have a blind spot when it comes to spam. While hating it with a vengeance when it comes from other people about things in which they have no interest, it becomes an obvious and useful tool for communication when one is trying to promote a pet cause.

I hate to burst your bubble but spam isn't something that only other people do.

Before sending a mass communication, you need to ask yourself the question, "What if everyone did this? Would I want to disembowel them with a rusty teaspoon?"

I'm not a Brixton resident. I haven't posted on this thread. You have a public message board on which to communicate your campaign message. What more do you want?

PMs are not the place. Please desist.
 
I went to the CPCG meeting last night (I got some filthy looks from Trinity Gardens people when I said I supported it and was a Brixton resident. Think I might avoid The Trinity for a while :) ).

Two councillors came out in favour of the centre and there was general support from the CPCG board. An ex drug user, NHS people and a vicar from Brixton hill also supported it (the vicar managed to get away with accusing them of being concerned about their house prices).

But there was very vocal oposition/heckaling from Brighton Terrace/Trinity residents. There arguments dont seem to stand up to me, but there is still the potentual for them to get their way by shouting loudest. They do seem totally unprepared for other Brxton residents to support the centre though.
 
untethered said:
I'd be feeling smug too if I was a spammer. It's not so much a profession as a vocation, right?

People tend to have a blind spot when it comes to spam. While hating it with a vengeance when it comes from other people about things in which they have no interest, it becomes an obvious and useful tool for communication when one is trying to promote a pet cause.

I hate to burst your bubble but spam isn't something that only other people do.

Before sending a mass communication, you need to ask yourself the question, "What if everyone did this? Would I want to disembowel them with a rusty teaspoon?"

I'm not a Brixton resident. I haven't posted on this thread. You have a public message board on which to communicate your campaign message. What more do you want?

PMs are not the place. Please desist.

Sorry if you're offended by a PM. But you do post on the Brixton boards - so it's a reasonable assumption that you live in Brixton.

And it's deliberately made pretty hard to PM people en masse by not being able to send more than 1 PM a minute and not more than 5 people a time.
 
Bob said:
Sorry if you're offended by a PM. But you do post on the Brixton boards - so it's a reasonable assumption that you live in Brixton.

Well it's obviously a crap assumption. But even if it were true, I wouldn't want to be spammed any more than I'd want to be spammed about someone's political interests because I've posted in the politics forum.

Do you need penis enlargement? Brain enlargement? I thought it might be a reasonable assumption given that you have a man's name and are evidently unable to read and comprehend simple concepts.

Bob said:
And it's deliberately made pretty hard to PM people en masse by not being able to send more than 1 PM a minute and not more than 5 people a time.

Only being able to spam 300 people an hour must make your life hell.

What do you think the purpose of this public message board is? If I was interested in your issue, I would have read your thread, which I did not. If I wanted to sign your petition, I would have done so.

Just please go and fuck yourself and take your stupid "but it's not really spam because it's a good cause and I can only send five a minute" attitude with you.

Thanks.

Technical Definition of Spam

An electronic message is "spam" IF:

(1) the recipient's personal identity and context are irrelevant because the message is equally applicable to many other potential recipients;

AND

(2) the recipient has not verifiably granted deliberate, explicit, and still-revocable permission for it to be sent.

Spam is an issue about consent, not content. Whether the UBE message is an advert, a scam, porn, a begging letter or an offer of a free lunch, the content is irrelevant - if the message was sent unsolicited and in bulk then the message is spam.

http://www.spamhaus.org/definition.html
 
So you received one PM you consider to be spam (shock, horror), and now you are derailing this highly important thread. Dunno what your agenda is here but if you have no interest in Brixton and don't support this initiative, I suggest you sling your hook. All right?
 
untethered said:
Just please go and fuck yourself and take your stupid "but it's not really spam because it's a good cause and I can only send five a minute" attitude with you.

Thats constructive. (Its also much closer to my definition of spam than yours.)

This is a specifically named thread about a Brixton issue in a Brixton forum. If you're not interested then you dont ahve to read it.
 
memespring said:
Thats constructive. (Its also much closer to my definition of spam than yours.)

"My" definition of spam is the widely-accepted one promulgated by Spamhaus. If you don't like it, I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.

memespring said:
This is a specifically named thread about a Brixton issue in a Brixton forum. If you're not interested then you dont ahve to read it.

I wasn't interested. That's why I didn't read it until Bob sent me a spammy PM about it. Is it the reading or the comprehension that troubles you the most?
 
untethered said:
If it's spam, don't send it. Simple.

Why do you have to make it my problem?

You've had one message you didn't like that took you a second or two to delete. I'm sorry I wasted your time.

But you've now spent a reasonable amount of time arguing about it to no end.

If you want to have this argument why don't you either: a) have it with me by PM, or b) start another thread that is specifically about this or c) complain to a Mod if you think I've broken the FAQ.
 
untethered said:
If it's spam, don't send it. Simple.

Why do you have to make it my problem?

And why do you have to derail this thread? If you're pissed off about the spam raise it with Bob separately. This is not the place to do it.

Anyway back on track...

memepring said:
But there was very vocal oposition/heckaling from Brighton Terrace/Trinity residents. There arguments dont seem to stand up to me, but there is still the potentual for them to get their way by shouting loudest. They do seem totally unprepared for other Brxton residents to support the centre though.

They seem to me to be in a state of absolute panic at the moment. They see any meeting where it's being discussed and turn up mob handed when they don't know what the purpose of the meeting is. The thing I found startling about last night was that they were absolutely affronted that issues that had already been discussed were being repeated and kept going on about investigating alternative locations. That's the job of the council not the CPCG .

I think the Chair of the meeting did really well considering their disruptive heckling throughout his summing up.
 
nipsla said:
And why do you have to derail this thread? If you're pissed off about the spam raise it with Bob separately. This is not the place to do it.

Because if everyone on this site thought as you did, we'd all spend most our time clearing out our PM boxes rather than reading and posting on the public forums.

I don't see why your precious thread should be sacrosanct while my PM box is fair game.

I'm sure you all hate spam. It seems contradictory that you're happy to defend it when it's in your name.

Anyway, I trust I've made my point. Too bad you can't see further than the ends of your own noses.
 
untethered said:
Because if everyone on this site thought as you did, we'd all spend most our time clearing out our PM boxes rather than reading and posting on the public forums.

I don't see why your precious thread should be sacrosanct while my PM box is fair game.

I'm sure you all hate spam. It seems contradictory that you're happy to defend it when it's in your name.

Anyway, I trust I've made my point. Too bad you can't see further than the ends of your own noses.
What part of 'piss off' are you having difficulty comprehending?
 
IntoStella said:
What part of 'piss off' are you having difficulty comprehending?

The bit where you keep replying to my posts rather than ignoring them and talking about your thread's topic.
 
Back OT

If people can provide postcodes on the petition when they sign it then it helps since it will make it clear to local politicians which ward you live in.

Ta. :)
 
I've signed it Bob- I still live in Trinity Gardens (not leaving just yet, only when the centre opens ;)), so hopefully it will be a useful addition to the petition
 
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