Sunray
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Could you post all that on the Wirefresh article because I really like it - and I've just sent Palm the link to the article.
Done.
Palm: Pre, webOS & app discussion
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Done.
hey ed.. Your wirefresh article made the front page of http://www.precentral.net/
Kid_Eternity
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Sunray said:
Well said.
And WebOS 1.4 has finally hit the O2 download servers.
This is the first WebOS ever to hit euro and US networks simultaneously, in fact the first recorded sighting of 1.4 in the wild was on an unlocked german pre running with a dutch SIM whilst roaming in Vietnam
e2a:
O2 WebOS 1.4 Release Notes
This is the first WebOS ever to hit euro and US networks simultaneously, in fact the first recorded sighting of 1.4 in the wild was on an unlocked german pre running with a dutch SIM whilst roaming in Vietnam
e2a:
O2 WebOS 1.4 Release Notes
editor
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Nice. Very nice:And WebOS 1.4 has finally hit the O2 download servers.
This is the first WebOS ever to hit euro and US networks simultaneously, in fact the first recorded sighting of 1.4 in the wild was on an unlocked german pre running with a dutch SIM whilst roaming in Vietnam
e2a:
O2 WebOS 1.4 Release Notes
Palm's onscreen alert system is already leagues above the iPhone's and flashing LEDs are a superb way to see if you've got an email/SMS waiting.
Amazingly, Palm's PR rang me back and have promised a statement in response to my article. They've also forwarded it to Palm.
Kid_Eternity
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Nice one!
And WebOS 1.4 has finally hit the O2 download servers.
This is the first WebOS ever to hit euro and US networks simultaneously, in fact the first recorded sighting of 1.4 in the wild was on an unlocked german pre running with a dutch SIM whilst roaming in Vietnam
e2a:
O2 WebOS 1.4 Release Notes
Just downloaded, installing now....
Look forward to hearing the reply.
Anyone know when paid apps are coming?
And is the new update any good or as buggy as the last one?
editor
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This month apparently and there's expected to be a ton of games coming through. I miss my Palm Pre. Oh, and the new Facebook app for Palm is ace.
live_jayeola
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Looks like my money is on a Nokia 900. Not just because it runs Linux. A number of the dev team have them and they are ace. Bit bulky mind you but... another thread perhaps?
Sunray
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Business analysts have now downgraded Palm to sell and set the target price of it to $0 which means they don't think its got any future unless Palm can generate some earning growth.
I think that it will have to be bought to continue as a going concern, can't lose $22 million a quarter for too long before someone pulls the plug.
webOS is good but the hardware it runs on is not really up to the job.
Someone might buy them to get their hands on the patents and webOS. Palm are currently valued at ~600 million dollars. Not sure if there is anyone out there that is desperate to get into the Smart phone business that's not already? Most of the players are already committed to a line of products. Apple is a possibility but they would just asset strip it and put a pillow over its face. Then fire off huge lawsuits to Nokia over early Palm patents.
Poor old Palm, I think they are the victim of poor quality staff in key positions and some flaky hardware.
I think that it will have to be bought to continue as a going concern, can't lose $22 million a quarter for too long before someone pulls the plug.
webOS is good but the hardware it runs on is not really up to the job.
Someone might buy them to get their hands on the patents and webOS. Palm are currently valued at ~600 million dollars. Not sure if there is anyone out there that is desperate to get into the Smart phone business that's not already? Most of the players are already committed to a line of products. Apple is a possibility but they would just asset strip it and put a pillow over its face. Then fire off huge lawsuits to Nokia over early Palm patents.
Poor old Palm, I think they are the victim of poor quality staff in key positions and some flaky hardware.
Kid_Eternity
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Yeah looks like Palm is sliding down the shitter, how different things are from just a year ago...
Sunray
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Hardly. They are the creators of Android with lots of hardware partners that have committed to the Android platform and already have a phone.
Buying Palm would indicate to the entire world that Google are considering replacing Android or that Android isn't as good as it could be. Google aren't a patent trolling company, with just a single product the only thing Palm could offer them would be webOS?
Given how many hardware partners Google have now, I can't think of a more spectacular own goal they could score. Up there with Palm choosing O2 as their exclusive UK carrier. Google's release of their own Android phone caused ripples in the Android pond which must have taken some smooth talking from Google. Buying Palm would be akin to dropping a brick into that pond.
Piers Gibbon
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I'm so sad about this
there is also a bit of schadenfreude at having called it correctly six months ago by getting an old iphone to see how things panned out rather than wait and sign up to a new Pre contract (after years and years of being a loyal Treo and Centro user)
but actually all of us iPhone users are also losers here too...with no perceived real competition apple seem to be going even more madly control freakish as time goes by
there is also a bit of schadenfreude at having called it correctly six months ago by getting an old iphone to see how things panned out rather than wait and sign up to a new Pre contract (after years and years of being a loyal Treo and Centro user)
but actually all of us iPhone users are also losers here too...with no perceived real competition apple seem to be going even more madly control freakish as time goes by
grit
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There wasnt six months ago but there is plenty of real competition now.
Kid_Eternity
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grit said:
Looks to me that only reason to buy them is to own patents...
Kid_Eternity
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Piers Gibbon said:
Yeah...had they released the Pre early enough I'd had one...
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elbows
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Can tell they are a bit desperate as they are offering $1 million in bonuses (total) to developers:
http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1841&Itemid=35
http://developer.palm.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1841&Itemid=35
Kid_Eternity
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Wow they're fucked.
editor
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Your logic is desperately faulty: Android offered £10m to developers three years ago.
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2007/11/calling-all-developers-10m-android.html
.. and then there's this: "Behind the scenes are the venture capitalists, such as Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, which recently established the $100 million iFund to invest in mobile applications for the iPhone"
http://news.cnet.com/8301-10784_3-9905858-7.html
Kid_Eternity
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In this context they're fucked! I doubt they'll be around in present form by the end of the year..!
editor
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I really wouldn't write them off quite yet.
Sunray
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Not because they are offering money to developers, that's been common for ages.
They are fucked because they are losing $20 million a quarter and have been for 18 months. That can't continue for much longer.
grit
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Its over Editor, really.
Kid_Eternity
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grit said:
Yep.
editor
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The fat lady isn't singing quite yet. Palm has just announced that they’ll soon be launching the Pre Plus and Pixi Plus on AT&T in the States.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/03...-pre-plus-for-att-at-50-and-150-respectively/
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/03...-pre-plus-for-att-at-50-and-150-respectively/
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