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thanks....I have tried all of the above - promise - including all varieties of pluuged in and not

whatever I do..all I get is red light on insertion of battery

once it did reboot..then went in to a perma hotsynch loop....then died
 
A long shot: have you checked that the display brightness isn't set to zero?
Also, try taking the battery out and rubbing the connectors with toothbrush and alcohol. It seems to have done the job for a few folks.
 
thanks - have tried the brightness thingy but will now try the alcohol - cheers

I just wish there was a HARDER hard reset button somehwre
 
Here's a review of the Classic Palm OS Emulator app.

Basically, just about all your old Palm OS apps will work fine, although desktop data hotsync won't work for most apps yet (there's already workarounds for the superb Bonsai). Original registrations work, so I'll have a ton of apps to install!

http://www.precentral.net/review-classic-palm-os-emulator-motionapps

Its $29.99...? It wasn't included by default...? They must be kidding...! https://www.motionapps.com/classic/buy/ Unless you have a ton of Apps then it surely it will be cheaper just to buy new App from the Palm App store when they are available.

Thinking back to the Apps I used on my old Treo 650 I think I probably would splash for this...
 
2 things that makes me tend towards the iPhone right now is that a) it's available and b) it can Skype right now

I make a LOT of calls to Gerbilly and Skype would save me a lot
 
2 things that makes me tend towards the iPhone right now is that a) it's available and b) it can Skype right nowt
You can use Skype on a lot of other phones and - if I recall correctly - you can only make a Skype call on an iPhone if you're connected to Wi-Fi - so it's no good if you're out and about.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article6005428.ece

There's always the Skypephone which is pretty cheap; http://www.three.co.uk/Mobiles/3_Skypephone
 
thanks Ed...am hoping by the time the Pre comes out there will be a skype app for it

sadly yes it looks like it is always going to be wifi only grrr
 
yeah am thinking I might do that netbook thing if I do any more big travels

just wish mac wd make me a netbook...sigh

but really I was hoping to find a smartphone that would allow me to leave the lappy/netbook AT HOME at last
 
It's always a compromise: my Android phone can take the place of a laptop for short trips, but after a day or two you'll be begging for a proper keyboard and adecent sized screen.

I took my Asus Eee netbook to NYC instead of my usual laptop and was really glad I did. It was light and sturdy enough to shove in my bag and the battery life was excellent - and I was able to back up all my photos.
 
yeah am thinking I might do that netbook thing if I do any more big travels

just wish mac wd make me a netbook...sigh

but really I was hoping to find a smartphone that would allow me to leave the lappy/netbook AT HOME at last

The iPhone has meant I use my laptop a lot less. It's great! :cool:
 
The iPhone has meant I use my laptop a lot less. It's great! :cool:
It's the same for most smartphone users on all platforms - myself included - but that's not going to help Piers who wants to make Skype calls on 3G. The iPhone doesn't allow that, as Skype calls are restricted to wi-fi only.
 
It's the same for most smartphone users on all platforms - myself included - but that's not going to help Piers who wants to make Skype calls on 3G. The iPhone doesn't allow that, as Skype calls are restricted to wi-fi only.

That's just one thing he was talking about though, there's plenty of other ways it helps. Also, I rarely have problems finding a wifi hotspot and with free access to over 5000 of them I reckon it's not that big a deal.;)
 
That's just one thing he was talking about though, there's plenty of other ways it helps. Also, I rarely have problems finding a wifi hotspot and with free access to over 5000 of them I reckon it's not that big a deal.;)

Will the Pre have the same access to the O2 Wireless hot-spots the iPhone does...?
 
Will the Pre have the same access to the O2 Wireless hot-spots the iPhone does...?
I'd say that's quite likely unless the Pre sells for a lot cheaper than the iPhone.
Might be one coming out in October : http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2...ina-suggests-800-itablet-coming-this-fall.ars . Alternativly you can install OS X on Dell netbooks, apparently.
I wouldn't hold my breath on that one arriving in October, although I've been banging on for ages that Apple are missing out by not having a netbook-style device.

Thing is, I like the fact that my netbook was cheap - as soon as prices start sailing past £400-500 (that reports cites a very pricey $800), I'm going to start treating the thing a bit more preciously - and for me the whole point of a netbook is that it's a small, cheap, light laptop you can shove in your bag and carry everywhere.
 
That's just one thing he was talking about though, there's plenty of other ways it helps. Also, I rarely have problems finding a wifi hotspot and with free access to over 5000 of them I reckon it's not that big a deal.;)

Yup, how far are we away from a McDonalds, Starbucks and a Pret.

In C London, wifi is nearly 100% guaranteed.
 
but don't you have to buy a coffee to get the log in password?

No, if you get the iPhone contract, which I can imagine will be very similar to the Pre contract, you get the BT Openzone and Cloud Wifi networks thrown in free.

Just need to register once with your mobile number and its automatic after that unless you master reset the phone. These are all in McD's, Pret and Starbuck, all the major train stations and a load of other places. Just need to use google maps to find them.
 
No, if you get the iPhone contract, which I can imagine will be very similar to the Pre contract, you get the BT Openzone and Cloud Wifi networks thrown in free.

Just need to register once with your mobile number and its automatic after that unless you master reset the phone. These are all in McD's, Pret and Starbuck, all the major train stations and a load of other places. Just need to use google maps to find them.
As an aside, when I had my Centro I used to glance enviously at people with wi-fi connected phones, but since getting my G1 phone, I've barely used wi-fi (even when it's available) because it's less hassle - and almost as fast - to stick with 3G.

I do use it to watch the odd BBC iPlayer program when I'm in bed, but it's nowhere as essential as I thought it might be. Obviously for Piers it's a different story, but if he really needs always-on Skype connectivity, a Palm Pre or an iPhone are unlikely to fulfil that need.
 
The iPhone will seamlessly switch to a BTOpenzone or Cloud network if its in range once you have registered on them, don't have to do anything, its quite a bit faster to access the net, O2 3G is patchy for good speed. Sometimes its HSDPA wifi like speed, other times its like 56k modem speeds.

Main issue I've found, esp at stations, the router is often borked, so it switches to wifi network and essentially cuts you off, forcing you to switch off wifi.
 
The iPhone will seamlessly switch to a BTOpenzone or Cloud network if its in range once you have registered on them, don't have to do anything, its quite a bit faster to access the net, O2 3G is patchy for good speed. Sometimes its HSDPA wifi like speed, other times its like 56k modem speeds.

I usually have wifi off, and if I want to do something just flip it on and have a quick sniff for a network. It only takes two seconds to do and may make my like network requests quicker...
 
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