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hiraethified
PLEASE sign, share, retweet, write it on your forehead, whatever: DO IT NOW! Save the Brixton Arches and lodge your objection before it’s too late (closes 10th March)
Out with the Old... Network Rail tell businesses to vacate Atlantic Road arches
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Gramsci
Well-Known Member
Have you decided yet whether you oppose the NR planning application?
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
I did have some questions about it but nobody answered them:
And this based on the tripling of rents
Other than the above rent questions, the application is a description of what it will look like
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
This is what NR is up to (apart from potentially driving out all its tenants):
The proposed works include but are not limited to the installation of new services, new shopfronts, arch lining (to waterproof the arches) new modern welfare facilities, external lighting, new insulated concrete floors and aesthetic improvements to the station passageway. In addition it is intended to clean the viaduct structure and remove clutter that has accumulated over time... creation of a new walkthrough between Atlantic Road and Brixton Station Road.
Of critical importance to the operational railway, this proposal will also provide an opportunity to undertake a detailed structural assessment to ensure that the viaduct structure complies with safety standards.
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SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Link doesn't work for me. The italicised text is a description of what it will look like, or at least what will be done to achieve that.
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
Exactly. NR claims only 30 of its 4,000 London arches are let to national chains, but you would not bet against it happening here.
Carpet man
Active Member
NR say the work will take a ' year ' , I'm not a building contractor but they can't be planning to have too many workmen on site surely ? , why can't the Arches be refurbished in stages maybe six at a time leaving the remaining tenants to continue to trade ?
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Good point. Was that question asked of them?
leanderman
Street Party: July 2
The construction works will be undertaken in one single phase, this is owing to the interconnectivity of the units and the requirement to break out flooring to provide upgraded service connections and resolve drainage issues. A single phase build will also minimise the time construction works take place.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Service connections as in electricity etc? If so, fair enough. Bit shit, but maybe unavoidable
Carpet man
Active Member
Why can't they put more contractors on site and finish it in a much shorter time reducing the knock on effect to all the indoor and outdoor market traders etc ?
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
So you have not put in comments to oppose this application.
As I said before by the time you have decided what position to take it will be over for all the small business. Sometimes one has to take sides.
The answer to your question I have already answered in previous post. I take any reference by NR to rents etc with a pinch of salt.
The application is more than just a description of what it will look like. As Brixton Society comments on the application show. And my comments about why it does not follow Brixton SPD.
What I do not understand about your lack of support for these small business is some time ago I remember you posting asking why people here were anti business. No its you thats anti business. That is of small independent traders whose livelihoods are under threat from big business.
I would have more time for you as a poster if you just came out with it and said you support NR.
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SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
No. But as I am forced to remind you yet again, neither have I put in one of support. Your repeated efforts to paint me as pro-NR is bordering on harassment.
OK. Well, you've taken a side. It's not for you to force others to.
That's not an answer to the question asked.
The application is a description. The comments as you say, may explain more, but I haven't read the comments.
Where did I say that?
And full circle back to the pro NR stuff again.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I have posted my comments here. Brixton Society comments have been made public here for others to use. So its surprising you haven’t read them.
So your position is not to have a position.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
It shouldn't come as a surprise to you that I haven't read every single one of your posts, let alone every post in this thread.
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hiraethified
This was a nice way for the kids to show their support:
Save Brixton Arches – schoolkids chalk out their thoughts about the impending evictions
Save Brixton Arches – schoolkids chalk out their thoughts about the impending evictions
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
She was out on the knocker early yesterday evening with a Labour rosette, so she seems to be operating an new Coldharbour form of nudge theory.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Did you see this?
Tricky Skills
Well-Known Member
This was a nice way for the kids to show their support:
Save Brixton Arches – schoolkids chalk out their thoughts about the impending evictions
This project is also the subject of a bizarre Freedom of Information request.
newbie
undisambiguated
It would be bizarre if Lambeth has anything to say on the matter.
but I understand why someone is asking questions. I came back from voting in a primary school somewhat incensed about the amount of god the poor kids have thrust down their throats. Every wall in the hall was covered in propaganda, every poster and drawing reinforcing the same message. I don't approve, I want all so-called 'faith' schools shut down (well, reinvented) and the ideological loons who run them barred from contact with children. But that's just me.
The involvement of young children with politics raises similar questions about direction and manipulation and so on. They're 9 or 10 or so, it's a fair bet they didn't self-organise. There's a substantial difference between them being organised by parents, by one or more teachers or by their school as an institution (let alone by their local authority!). I'm not sure it should matter whether I or we agree with the political cause those kids have been coerced to support.
but I understand why someone is asking questions. I came back from voting in a primary school somewhat incensed about the amount of god the poor kids have thrust down their throats. Every wall in the hall was covered in propaganda, every poster and drawing reinforcing the same message. I don't approve, I want all so-called 'faith' schools shut down (well, reinvented) and the ideological loons who run them barred from contact with children. But that's just me.
The involvement of young children with politics raises similar questions about direction and manipulation and so on. They're 9 or 10 or so, it's a fair bet they didn't self-organise. There's a substantial difference between them being organised by parents, by one or more teachers or by their school as an institution (let alone by their local authority!). I'm not sure it should matter whether I or we agree with the political cause those kids have been coerced to support.
Mr Retro
Beware hedgehogs
Great post
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Yup, that's certainly bizarre!
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
This is not uncommon. I know a documentary film maker who was also subject to an FOI over a doc they were making in Brixton.
Its trawling for info to try to get way to criticise projects. Can be used by people on the left and right of the political spectrum.
So I would not say its bizarre.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
And schoolkids from Stockwell were used in project about Pop:
BLC primary students prepare a brochure for Pop Brixton
So lets ban anything that might be construed as being at all political. Teach them about the three Rs only.
