Old Negatives

[miss minnie]

Liotro the Elephant Mascot. The elephant statue is a symbol and mascot for the city Atop his back is a transplanted egyptian obelisk Catania , Sicily , Italy

e2a: ooh, what happened your pic of the elephant fountain mick?

 

[mick2007]

Oh No! Sorry about that. I took it off because while searching I too discovered it had bog all to do with Coventry. Thanks for help all the same!

 

[cybertect]

OK, for anyone interested here is another of the pub..The Kings Head. Looking at the negative at first I thought the guy at the top of the photograph was some bloke or The Landlord sticking his head out of the window. Turns out it's 'Peeping Tom'..

http://www.historiccoventry.co.uk/nowandthen/nowandthenbroadgate2.php

The photo above shows him peeping out from the corner window of the Kings Head Inn, but at Christmas 1879 this new enlarged Kings Head Hotel opened - and Tom had a new, more upmarket home.

That is the new building. If it's the same sort of negative plate as the others, it lends support to your idea that they're 1880s images.

 

[mick2007]

Yeah I was really chuffed when I read that. Though the others might be earlier..also like you said Cybertect..there is an outside chance that these are the negs by Joseph Wingrave?! His chemist and photo shop were on the 'High Street'. The same street as The Kings Head. His address was 4 High Street, could it possibly be because the Kings Head is at the top of the High Street on the link, that the Kings Head shot was taken from the second floor of his shop? His shop was near 'Pepper Lane'..so I'm not 100% which end of the High Street his shop was. On first glace of the link it would appear to be the other end alas.

 

[cybertect]

His shop was near 'Pepper Lane'..so I'm not 100% which end of the High Street his shop was. On first glace of the link it would appear to be the other end alas.

I'm not so sure

http://www.historiccoventry.co.uk/covmaps/allmaps.php

Pepper Lane is the next street down from Broadgate on the northern side of High Street opposite Greyfriars Lane.

I think that photo must have been taken from the opposite side of Hertford Street to the Hotel.

e2a: I reckon his shop was where the West Bromwich Building Society is now, on the corner of Pepper Lane and High Street [StreetView].

The address of HSBC on the other side of Pepper Lane junction is Nos 5/6 High Street and the numbers run up as you go south-east.

The view of the Kings Head from his shop would have been something like this, so your photo must have been taken from a building roughly where the Lady Godiva News or Nationwide is now.

Hertford Street has been slightly re-aligned, so the Kings Head site was roughly where Greggs is now.

e2a: so it was literally round the corner from his shop. It's entirely feasible he knew people on the other side of the street well enough to get access to the second floor to take a photo of Peeping Tom.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Joseph Wingrave is listed on that link of photographers in Coventry

 

[mick2007]

I think your spot on there Cybertect.

This one is a bit knackered and needs a lot of work doing on it. It has the appearance of a school..but looks a bit rural to be Coventry?

High Res.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5016/5495455185_4f6b683f86_o.jpg

 

[cybertect]

Mrs c says it's Coombe Abbey

E2a: Wingrave photographed it in 1860.

http://www.coventry-walks.org.uk/coombe/ca-then-now.html

But your photo dates from at least after 1865, when some new building took place, designed by William Eden Nesfield.

I was about to go leafing through my books on Norman Shaw when mrs c piped up saying it's Coombe... Nesfield was Shaw's partner.

 

[Crispy]

I love this thread

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Mrs c says it's Coombe Abbey

I thought you were female cybertect

 

[Stanley Edwards]

I thought you were female cybertect

She is

Very liberal times we're enjoying.

More of these threads please!

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

She is

Very liberal times we're enjoying.

More of these threads please!

Oh

 

[cybertect]

She is

Stanley is fibbing, though this isn't the first time I've been thought to be female on U75

[checks bits - they're still there.]

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Stanley is fibbing, though this isn't the first time I've been thought to be female on U75

[checks bits - they're still there.]

Glad I amended my post then as I asked whether you'd got married and was searching threads about civil partnerships

Wonder why I thought you were female? Maybe get you mixed up with cyberfairy?

 

[mick2007]

Well done Mrs C yet again!

The sign reads 'Notice This Footway has been stopped by the order of the Magistrates'.

Thats the lot really. There is another that is definitely a copy of a very early photograph of another church being built with all the scaffolding around it.

High res

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5219/5498872670_f46c2f120c_o.jpg

 

[Mrs Magpie]

All Saints, Allesley, Millisons Wood, near Coventry

 

[Mrs Magpie]

Yes, definitely...

 

[Mrs Magpie]

I was thrown a bit, because the windows have been altered, but finding a pic with the tomb in the foreground confirmed it for me.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

I'll know for sure when Mrs C has a look...she's the expert!

 

[Mrs Magpie]

...right, Wikipedia tells me

Allesley grew around the 800 year old All Saints Church, the spire of which is prominent on the skyline of the village. Originally built around 1130, it was rebuilt in 1863 and remains relatively unaltered since then.

which tells me that your photograph was taken after 1863.

 

[cybertect]

All Saints, Allesley, Millisons Wood, near Coventry

Good call. It's a few minutes drive from my inlaws' old house.

Modern pics

http://www.flickr.com/photos/15912099@N04/3610842138/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/pikerslanefarm/2357972539/

 

[mick2007]

Talk about Urban 75 information service.

I must admit I looked through about 250 old photographs of schools around Coventry yesterday and didn't really come up with anything..didn't fancy doing it again with a rural looking church. So brilliant!

 

[Mrs Magpie]

I started by googling Norman Church Spire. If you can tell the architectural style it saves a lot of time.

 

[mick2007]

No doubt!..a lot better than googling 'church near Coventry'.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

Got any more?

 

[Mrs Magpie]

I really love this thread

 

[mick2007]

Not scanned at the moment..all there is left is the odd other church, plus the copy job of the church covered with scaffolding.

On the other hand in the same batch are the rural photo's on this thread..they are no doubt later..but it's very hard to know if they are connected with Coventry..I think there are a few more of them I haven't put on here, but it's just people having a picnic or something.

 

[mick2007]

OK, there has been a slight turn around. This one is a wet plate negative just like all the other one's identified of being around Coventry. So I can only presume that this scene is as well.

This afternoon I was sad enough to be completely enthralled looking for bridges like this around Coventry. First I stumbled across the fact that it must be a pack horse bridge.

High Res.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5172/5504187263_7bd3c8c6c1_o.jpg

After around 2 hours of surfing about the best I can come up with is this.

http://www.acoventryway.org.uk/wwf/gallery/photos/image014.htm

Remember the early photograph was probably taken in the 1880's..the photograph above was taken in 2005, the bridge no doubt has had some work done on it by looking at the brick work and it was done along time ago by the looks of it.

Is this the same bridge then?!

I've got as far I as I can with it..

 

[cybertect]

Here's a better photo of Pedlars Bridge today

http://www.acoventryway.org.uk/slide_show/photo043.htm

Even allowing for modern restoration (which occurred around 2003) here are enough differences in some of the basic details to make me wonder if it is the same bridge.

The location is a good tie-in with Coombe Abbey nearby, though.

 

[mick2007]

I know it's a puzzler..but a rare bridge. My guess is the house on the left should be the give away. Looking at the state of it, it really wouldn't suprise me if all you could find now was foundations?

It obviously could be somewhere else..but everything I've read tied this photo back here.

edit.

another shot.