Old Negatives

[Hocus Eye.]

mick2007

You need to try to show these pictures and any further ones you have not shown us, to people in Coventry. The best way would be by emailing them to the Coventry local newspaper.

 

[cybertect]

Just looking at the fashions, that's much later than any of the others - 1890s/early 1900s.

 

[miss minnie]

mick2007

You need to try to show these pictures and any further ones you have not shown us, to people in Coventry. The best way would be by emailing them to the Coventry local newspaper.

While this is true, thanks for sharing with us - it's so much fun!

 

[cybertect]

The best way would be by emailing them to the Coventry local newspaper.

The Coventry Telegraph is the newspaper of record in Coventry.

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

While this is true, thanks for sharing with us - it's so much fun!

Yeah, don't show them to the people of Coventry 'til we've had our fun first

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Those bridge one are difficult as either the bridges or houses could be gone by now.

I'm searching on the basis that they may be old mill houses

 

[Stanley Edwards]

The 'countryside' stuff is Daventry.

Maybe

e2a; or, perhaps Bourton on the Water.

e2a2; no. Probably neither

 

[Stanley Edwards]

Here's another that I presume was taken at the same time as the other, above.

Looks like it could be dhustone. South Shropshire-Worcestershire borders, or Daventry/Warwickshire. Given the others are Coventry, then I would say Daventry/Warwickshire, but something looks more Worcestershire/South Shropshire.

Perhaps on the edge of the Wyre Forest somewhere. Arley?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Looks like it could be dhustone. South Shropshire-Worcestershire borders, or Daventry/Warwickshire. Given the others are Coventry, then I would say Daventry/Warwickshire, but something looks more Worcestershire/South Shropshire.

Perhaps on the edge of the Wyre Forest somewhere. Arley?

Not Chester then?

 

[Stanley Edwards]

Not Chester then?

No

Closer to Coventry

About halfway between Coventry and Chester actually

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

No

Closer to Coventry

About halfway between Coventry and Chester actually

So it's either Worcestershire, Warwickshire or Shropshire

You may as well tell us exactly where these bridges are.

I'm all packhorse bridged out

 

[Mrs Magpie]

While this is true, thanks for sharing with us - it's so much fun!

innit?

 

[Mrs Magpie]

This is my current favourite thread Thanks Mick

 

[Mrs Magpie]

It's like Agatha Christie without those inconvenient and distracting bodies.....

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

It's like Agatha Christie without those inconvenient and distracting bodies.....

I bet you some dead bodies were found under those bridges centuries ago

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

So anyway, are these pictures the correct way round or should everything be flipped?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Hebden Bridge has very similar stonework, and there's what looks like a big chimney in the background. Obviously it's not Hebden Bridge as the arches are all wrong, but might have been built around the same time

 

[mick2007]

OK Excitement. I've had a good chance to have a look at them and on this first scan alas it would appear that this one at least is a copy. They are though very old because they are wet plates which I would really date them, I would say around the 1880's. The detail though is also excellent for the age of the neg.

With along the lines of what Cybertect was suggesting. That is something I will certainly do if I think people will be interested because this one at least is not a first generation copy...but it could be the only copy.

Also yeah I think the original scans of these on here..most were the wrong way around.

High Res version

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5174/5489950767_f9d679c160_o.jpg

 

[cybertect]

Look at the state of that chimney!

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

That's a great picture above

I flipped the photos around hoping it would help, but I'm still stuck with the bridges

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Look at the state of that chimney!

See that one further back, in front of the steeple? That's a little boy up sticking out the top

 

[mick2007]

This one is a corker and I would say this is definitely an original..maybe theres hope that way for the other one yet..

The detail on the high res version is exceptional, you can see all the detail in the hotel windows e.t.c. and have a nosey about.

I would be interested know when this one was taken. The glass plate is just under 7x5 inches.

High Res

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5260/5490627888_b6501de33b_o.jpg


This one of the school seems to be the original as well because the detail is too good to just be a copy as far as I can see.

High Res

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5100/5490748318_f8ae7dc1ee_o.jpg

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

That Commercial Hotel has "Knight's Temperance Hotel" in the windows

The Bankruptcy Act, 1869.
In the County Court of Lincolnshire, holden at Lincoln.
In the Matter of Proceedings for Liquidation by Arrangement
or Composition with Creditors, instituted by
Josiah West, of 345, High-street and 42, Tentercroftstreet,
both in the city of Lincoln, Grocer and Provision
Merchant.
NOTICE is hereby given, that a first General Meeting
of the creditors ot the above-named person has
been summoned to be held at Knight's Temperance Hotel,
High-street (corner of Tentercrolt-street), in the city of
Lincoln, on the 29th day of April, 1879, at eleven o'clock in
the forenoon precisely.—Dated this 9th day of April, 1879.
J. and B. SWAN and BOURNE, Silver-street,
Lincoln, Solicitors for the said Josiab West,

or is that a difference place altogether

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Maybe whoever took all these photos was a reporter/photographer himself for the local papers?

 

[mick2007]

Weird it states Lincoln. I guess Mr. Knight might of had a chain of Temperance Hotels...serves them right for not serving any beer.

I'm not sure if they had photographs in newspapers back then?

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Found info that said Bablake School was moved to Coundon Road, Coventry in 1890

Also read about what the school uniform was like, but this was in the 17th and 18th century (I think) and it doesn't seem to match what they're wearing so either the uniform changed, or these kids may have nothing to do wth the school

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Weird it states Lincoln. I guess Mr. Knight might of had a chain of Temperance Hotels...serves them right for not serving any beer.

I'm not sure if they had photographs in newspapers back then?

Well there were Temperance Hotels all over the world. Why does it have "late" in the sign (ie. Chadwick late Knight). Maybe Knight had died, and Chadwick now owned it? Some of them apparently served beer but steered clear of the hard stuff

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Weird it states Lincoln. I guess Mr. Knight might of had a chain of Temperance Hotels...serves them right for not serving any beer.

I'm not sure if they had photographs in newspapers back then?

Anyway, the Temperance Hotel in your picture is in UNION Street, so maybe Mr Knight had a couple of them!

Found this:

1880 First photographs appear in a newspaper

and

Another major advance during this period was the introduction of regular use of photographs in newspapers, which began in 1897.

Think this is in America though, so not sure when the UK started used photos

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

On Page 175 of this, The Temperance Commercial Hotel and Coffee Room, Exchange Court, 35 Union Street is mentioned

http://digital.nls.uk/23/86838927.pdf

But that's the Aberdeen Post Office Directory

 

[Minnie_the_Minx]

Temperance and Commercial may also have been used widely for teetotal hotels that catered to businessmen (I read that Commercial back then was usually for businessmen). So maybe it's an idea to go back to Chadwick and Knight rather than Commercial Hotel or Temperance Hotel. I don't care anymore as I'm going to bed!