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dogmatique said:
If he took that little care with his own identity, how much do you think he's taken with ours??

Seriously though they just don't have the resources to go after users.
i suppose not, though i might take this opportunity to reinstall my OS
 
Anyone else heard of http://www.stmusic.org ?

It's open for registration, and whilst it's nowhere near as comprehensive as Oink, it does have 14 thousand albums up.

That said, it's hosted by leaseweb, the same company that hosted Oink.
 
dogmatique said:
Anyone else heard of http://www.stmusic.org ?

It's open for registration, and whilst it's nowhere near as comprehensive as Oink, it does have 14 thousand albums up.

That said, it's hosted by leaseweb, the same company that hosted Oink.
i'm steering clear of this shit for a good long while
 
subversplat said:
Anyone worried about getting "busted" can do the following:

Get www.truecrypt.org and install it
Make a virtual hard drive big enough to put all your naughty stuff in (use a nice big password, a whole sentence would do - especially one with numbers "my dog is 7 years old next september" would be a nice one to remember, iyswim)
Put all your files in said hard drive
Optional: Delete your entire OS installation and install from scratch
Give your disk a scrub: http://www.webmasterfree.com/Hard_Disk_Scrubber_2.0_d1472.html
Laugh at the feds :cool:

While it may be possible to get various bits of data back with a multi-million pound setup and electron microsocopes, I highly doubt that they would bother for some low-level copyright infringement :)
how does that scrubber thingy work then?
 
subversplat said:
That sort of evidence would be shot down in seconds in court. You'd need to be in posession of the copyrighted material first, and then they might use the server logs as backup evidence to show that you were distributing them across the internet.

Without the actual files though all they are is a bunch of filenames in a text document.
:confused:
They can show someone else requesting a file from your computer and it responding, what more do they need?
 
sleaterkinney said:
:confused:
They can show someone else requesting a file from your computer and it responding, what more do they need?

I guess cos a filename could be inaccurate.
 
sleaterkinney said:
:confused:
They can show someone else requesting a file from your computer and it responding, what more do they need?
I could easily call my latest family photo album "Dire Straits Greatest Hits" or whatever I wanted, it wouldn't make it Dire Straits Greatest Hits though, and the criminal legal system works on beyond reasonable doubt.
 
wishface said:
how does that scrubber thingy work then?
It fills your hard drive up and empties it again a whole load of times with random information, which makes file retrieval programmes useless.
 
subversplat said:
I could easily call my latest family photo album "Dire Straits Greatest Hits" or whatever I wanted, it wouldn't make it Dire Straits Greatest Hits though, and the criminal legal system works on beyond reasonable doubt.
I don't think a jury would see it like that, besides, they would have been up on the network downloading files for a while to get evidence to prosecute anyway.
 
So fucking annoyed about this - Had signed up a week ago. Seriously good it was. So fucking good in fact.

Jesus. Back to demonoid? Or maybe just give it a rest for a little bit?

Fucksticks
 
Rogue said:
So fucking annoyed about this - Had signed up a week ago. Seriously good it was. So fucking good in fact.

Jesus. Back to demonoid? Or maybe just give it a rest for a little bit?

Fucksticks
There's already another music site linked in this thread ;)
 
subversplat said:
There's already another music site linked in this thread ;)


Yeah I saw that - I'll have a look at it.

However the amount of electronic music I was just discovering on Oink was unrivaled from my 1 week stay on the site.

Plus the amount of Lossless files was incredible and a lot of the functionality was superb - like users who downloaded this also downloaded this.

I also found the d/l speeds were very very fast.
 
Structaural said:
Have many users been prosecuted in Europe for sharing? I can't remember any other than some Swede one time.
i was wondering this. in fact there i was thinking 'i wonder how secure this site is...tralalala!'

I can't think of any other sites like this being shut down so i don't know what then happened if anything.

There was some young teenage girl from Britain (bristol iirc, her name might hav been emily) who got into the news and into hot water for downloading mp3's. She got a massive fine, as a rather lurid example set by the powers that be. Don't ever recall what happened with that as the story disappeared.
 
wishface said:
i was wondering this. in fact there i was thinking 'i wonder how secure this site is...tralalala!'

I can't think of any other sites like this being shut down so i don't know what then happened if anything.

There was some young teenage girl from Britain (bristol iirc, her name might hav been emily) who got into the news and into hot water for downloading mp3's. She got a massive fine, as a rather lurid example set by the powers that be. Don't ever recall what happened with that as the story disappeared.

well then the risk is tiny and the oink guy will probably get off on a technicality as he was doing nothing illegal really. They've raided Pirate Bay numerous times, Demonoid three or four times and they're all back and no-one has been prosecuted for bitorrent sharing so far - only kazaar.
 
The Oink.cd website now says

This site has been closed as a result of a criminal investigation by IFPI, BPI, Cleveland Police and the Fiscal Investigation Unit of the Dutch Police (FIOD ECD) into suspected illegal music distribution.

A criminal investigation continues into the identities and activities of the site's users

I reckon we'll all be OK...they are scaremongering. They've got a nice televised arrest of an evil profiteering webmaster and made their bold statement all over Radio 1. I don’t think PC Plod of Cleveland will bother wasting resources on the rest of us.
 
Look at it this way - it's taken the police nearly 8 years to wade through the 7,000 or so UK residents caught out in Operation Ore - and they'd actually committed a pretty heinous crime.

The likelyhood of the police going anywhere near Oink users has got to be slim to none.

Even sending out settlement notices from FACT or similar to users would take a hell of a lot of time and effort.
 
Structaural said:
well then the risk is tiny and the oink guy will probably get off on a technicality as he was doing nothing illegal really. They've raided Pirate Bay numerous times, Demonoid three or four times and they're all back and no-one has been prosecuted for bitorrent sharing so far - only kazaar.
You got there before me. I'd say he's done nothing illegal, either, but I'm not sure about the tracker status. Is it illegal to run a tracker which facilitates copyright theft?
 
subversplat said:
It fills your hard drive up and empties it again a whole load of times with random information, which makes file retrieval programmes useless.
sounds great, but surely if it's as easy as it sounds then it must be equally easy to get around.
 
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