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Nour cash and carry in Brixton faces another hefty rent rise

leanderman said:
Has anyone tried Wishbone, the fried chicken place?

The Brixton Blog did a pretty damning review just as it had opened. I will give it a try one day.
 
Has anyone tried Wishbone, the fried chicken place?
They're another of those trendy foodie places that has decided to expand their empires by moving into Brixton. I wonder how many of the new businesses operating in Market Row/Village are actually home-grown independent ones rather than wannabe chains or - in the case of the yoghurt place - multi national franchises.
 
They're another of those trendy foodie places that has decided to expand their empires by moving into Brixton. I wonder how many of the new businesses operating in Market Row/Village are actually home-grown independent ones rather than wannabe chains or - in the case of the yoghurt place - multi national franchises.

Good point.

On the other hand, Franco Manca (Chiswick, Northcote Rd and Westfield East), Kaosarn (Battersea) and Honest (Soho) have expanded from Brixton.
 
Good point.

On the other hand, Franco Manca (Chiswick, Northcote Rd and Westfield East), Kaosarn (Battersea) and Honest (Soho) have expanded from Brixton.

I wonder whether the people who live in those places are complaining about trendy incomers?
 
I wonder whether the people who live in those places are complaining about trendy incomers?

Probably not. But then it's a rather unique problem in Brixton. The landlords are pushing rents higher and higher to force out stores who have supported the community for a long time so they can get trendier/more on message places in. And they'll have no compunction to push out some of the early adopters in the market if they think they can get more money. Now the building's listed their priority is make a shit load of money through business instead of make a shit load of money by running it down and then selling it off to be knocked down and rebuilt as flats.
 
I feel sorry for Nour (and for anyone who gets pushed out because of rents going up). I'm not sure that much can be done about it though, and I think to some extent it's the story of London - areas rise and fall.
 
I feel sorry for Nour (and for anyone who gets pushed out because of rents going up). I'm not sure that much can be done about it though, and I think to some extent it's the story of London - areas rise and fall.

This is entirely true. But it's been sped up about 1000% in Brixton over the last 2 years. And is probably why so many people have a problem with it. Gentrification happens. But the pace of change (and the passion of the council to milk it) is extreme and is having an effect on everything really quickly. Rent has gone up massively in the private sector, and that will have a knock on effect in terms of LA rent. Squats and short life tenancies are suddenly being kicked out because there's a sudden realisation that the council can make money on it. People I know who've lived her for nearly 20 years are being forced out through cost. And the demographic changes irreversibly. Whether that's a good or bad thing depends on your point of view but it is very much happening.
 
Yes, I'm sure you're right about the pace of change. And I can see that a lot of people are losing out as a result. Some no, I'm not an unalloyed libertarian on this topic. To some extent though, I suspect that the pace of change is a result of Brixton being 'artifically ungentrified' for quite a while - ugly phrase but what I mean is it's got so much going for it as we all know who live here and yet because of prejudice/historical factors it's been ignored/discounted for a long time. Now the genie's out of the bottle and I'm not sure it can be put back.
 
Yes, I'm sure you're right about the pace of change. And I can see that a lot of people are losing out as a result. Some no, I'm not an unalloyed libertarian on this topic. To some extent though, I suspect that the pace of change is a result of Brixton being 'artifically ungentrified' for quite a while - ugly phrase but what I mean is it's got so much going for it as we all know who live here and yet because of prejudice/historical factors it's been ignored/discounted for a long time. Now the genie's out of the bottle and I'm not sure it can be put back.

Sadly, I couldn't agree more with the sentence I've bolded.
 
Yes, I'm sure you're right about the pace of change. And I can see that a lot of people are losing out as a result. Some no, I'm not an unalloyed libertarian on this topic. To some extent though, I suspect that the pace of change is a result of Brixton being 'artifically ungentrified' for quite a while - ugly phrase but what I mean is it's got so much going for it as we all know who live here and yet because of prejudice/historical factors it's been ignored/discounted for a long time. Now the genie's out of the bottle and I'm not sure it can be put back.

Brixton was sneered at for a long time - it could not last.
 
I think local management at InShops are well aware of the need to keep some diversity in the markets and I very much doubt that they want to force Nour out. They do, however, have a duty to their owners to extract the best rent and a certain amount of brinksmanship at rent review time is to be expected. I'm sure Nour is in a much better position to withstand this than some of the African shops in the Granville Arcade, whose trade looks precarious at the best of times.
 
From the web site of the French owners of InShop the current Landlord

http://www.geraud.co.uk/inshops.html

Champion of local retailing
Inshops is a company with a difference. It is committed to maintaining healthy local independent retailing, despite the prominence of national High Street chains and out-of- town shopping.

The UK retail scene in now monopolised by national multiple retailers. The InShops mission is to redress the balance by offering consumers a different and interesting choice of goods in convenient local indoor markets or shopping halls, in town centres and other suburban centres.
....
InShops Centres Ltd is a Geraud UK Ltd subsidiary. Its headquarters are located in Liverpool where the Company’s management and administration teams are based.
For further information, visit www.inshopsretail.com.

 
The irony is that the rich incomers, mostly white professionals, are attracted to the character given to Brixton by ethnic minority communities and artistic types who are being priced out. You kill what you love. The bit I don't get is why the council are hastening this process.
 
From the web site of the French owners of InShop the current Landlord

http://www.geraud.co.uk/inshops.html

Champion of local retailing
Inshops is a company with a difference. It is committed to maintaining healthy local independent retailing, despite the prominence of national High Street chains and out-of- town shopping.
I'm interested in seeing where this definition of "local independent retailing" is going.
 
The irony is that the rich incomers, mostly white professionals, are attracted to the character given to Brixton by ethnic minority communities and artistic types who are being priced out. You kill what you love. The bit I don't get is why the council are hastening this process.

In the case of the arcades, I am not sure the council are doing much. InShops local management - who are in many other ways a thoroughly useless shower - do understand this point, not least because the new tenants keep telling them that it's the diversity that makes it great.

What the Council are doing beyond the arcades is juggling capital assets in the face of central government pressure - basically, they need the money. Evict squatters, sell off the property, balance the books. It's the same pressure behind the plans to redevelop the Rec. Preserving demographic mix and keeping the unique character of Brixton (if that's practical at all) come pretty low down the list of Council priorities and will always be trumped by the budget.
 
This is entirely true. But it's been sped up about 1000% in Brixton over the last 2 years. And is probably why so many people have a problem with it. Gentrification happens. But the pace of change (and the passion of the council to milk it) is extreme and is having an effect on everything really quickly. Rent has gone up massively in the private sector, and that will have a knock on effect in terms of LA rent. Squats and short life tenancies are suddenly being kicked out because there's a sudden realisation that the council can make money on it. People I know who've lived her for nearly 20 years are being forced out through cost. And the demographic changes irreversibly. Whether that's a good or bad thing depends on your point of view but it is very much happening.

Demographic change of this rapidity is usually a bad thing, insofar as it allows little time for the existing community and the new community to come to terms with each other.
As for what you're saying about the LA, you're absolutely right - they've gone totally breadhead. This craving for money (putatively to offset the "austerity cuts", but oddly in line with the previously-expressed desire of Lambeth Labour to "balance" the demographic of the area) is going to mean more and more estates losing their green spaces to LA/developer collaborations that supposedly benefit people in social housing, while actually doing the reverse. Social cleansing.
 
Why wouldn't they?

middle class professionals are probably cheaper to service. maybe.

That certainly seems to be the thinking of the LA, and it's most definitely the thinking encapsulated in the various "welfare" reforms, which are effectively going to start stripping inner cities of their working class populations (to be "decanted"...who knows where?), and in the "Localism" legislation.
Middle-class professionals = less demand on social services; less administration of other "health and social care" issues; more willingness and ability to pay for services.
 
Let's hope they never get old or anything.

Oh, given that many of their representatives on the council are either in that "middle class professional" demographic, or aspire to it, I'm sure we'll see changes to suit their priorities. After all, they aren't "useless eaters", "scroungers" or "shirkers".
 
Well I meant the mc professionals moving in but that too.

TBF I wouldn't want to be the council just now under this govt but selling off assets seems short sighted. you can only sell them once.

If national policies stay as they are they will have the same problems and have to sell off more and then everything will be private and/or run by vols whether the council wanted that or not.

I'm depressed now.


again.
 
Well I meant the mc professionals moving in but that too.

TBF I wouldn't want to be the council just now under this govt but selling off assets seems short sighted. you can only sell them once.

If national policies stay as they are they will have the same problems and have to sell off more and then everything will be private and/or run by vols whether the council wanted that or not.

I'm depressed now.


again.

Sorry quimmie! :(
 
And the demographic changes irreversibly. Whether that's a good or bad thing depends on your point of view but it is very much happening.

Whilst I agree with much of what you say both objectively and emotionally, you are definitely mistaken in saying this - demographic changes can go in either direction in terms of social class, it may take a while but today's trendy on the up locale can be tomorrow's slum and this can happen relatively rapidly as well - brixton has been through both phases of the cycle more than once if I read the history correctly
 
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