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New home for Black Cultural Archives - Raleigh Hall

So how much public space has been lost? If any?

AFAIK It takes some of the space that was turfed over to form Windrush Square using the Brixton Challenge cash, but it doesn't actually encroach on the "Rush Common" land.

The Rush Common boundary follows a diagonal line across Windrush Square - you can see the rough line from the set back of the houses south of Saltoun Road rebuilt by Brixton Sheltered Street scheme.
 
So how much public space has been lost? If any?
None at all. In fact, we gain some.
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Ground floor plan
 
Top notch. second question, and I think google might be more appropriate, but what it the inside like? Are they intending to rip out anything that ought to be saved?
 
the listing status is 'poor condition - deteriating slowly'

Given that it was squatted and used as a shooting gallery, I can't imagine the insides are in particularly good nick. I'm downloading the Design Statement from the planning application.
 
And having flicked back through the design statement, my opinion is that this is a well designed building. It will greatly improve that end of the Square.
 
This is great news. It has been talked about for years. Frankly I'm astounded that a Tory mayor has come up with (some of) the cash in the middle of a recession. (The lottery is funding most of it tho.)

It will greatly improve that end of the Square.

I couldn't agree more - and I was thinking exactly the same thing when I walked through the square this morning. I think the BCA could massively improve the overall feel of the square.

Any idea how long it's going to take?
 
The HLF will probably have required match funding as part of a sustainability plan, and therefore with no council / Mayor's Office funding, Lambeth would have been left with an empty building and damage reputation in one of it's 'flagship' bits of regeneration. The Major's office money has probably been allocated for a while too.

(isn't it easy to sink into management speak)
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2012/may/07/black-history-archive-collapse-firm

"Ambitious plans to create the first permanent home for a unique archive, covering centuries of black history in Britain, have been hit by the collapse of the building firm working on the Heritage Lottery Fund-backed £6.5m project."
That's a real shame. This project has been pretty well plagued by delays. Given how long it has taken, three more months is neither here nor there. Hope the cost implications aren't too disastrous.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2012/may/07/black-history-archive-collapse-firm

"Ambitious plans to create the first permanent home for a unique archive, covering centuries of black history in Britain, have been hit by the collapse of the building firm working on the Heritage Lottery Fund-backed £6.5m project."
What!!!?
that is unbelievable! How can a 150 year-old firm take on a project like this and then go into administration?? Doesn't the lottery fund and other sponsors check a company'e credentials before awarding them a project like this?? Been taking years already Probably another Tory cut, they don't give a shit about black archives anyway, plus at this rate of influx of new inhabitants they might as well turn it into a spa
 
What!!!?
that is unbelievable! How can a 150 year-old firm take on a project like this and then go into administration?? Doesn't the lottery fund and other sponsors check a company'e credentials before awarding them a project like this?? Been taking years already Probably another Tory cut, they don't give a shit about black archives anyway, plus at this rate of influx of new inhabitants they might as well turn it into a spa

I think its not the fault of the Lottery Fund or BCA but is a sign of the economic situation in this country. Which imo is worse than some people might think.
 
How can a 150 year-old firm take on a project like this and then go into administration?? Doesn't the lottery fund and other sponsors check a company'e credentials before awarding them a project like this??

You've answered your own question: if they'd checked the credentials (as I'm sure they did) they presumably concluded a 150 year old company was a safe choice.
 
From the small amount of info I could find online it looks like the company made a modest profit last year but was forecast to make 90 million this year. They also apparently had a 3million pound overdraft facility which was up for renewal. The problem at the moment is that lots of banks are withdrawing funding arrangements that companies have had available to them for years. If the facility is called in and the company's cashflow snapshot at that moment means it does not have the cash or cannot refinance it straight away then the company will go into administration. It's a bit like going overdrawn in between your monthly paydays, except that whoever provides your temporary overdraft suddenly says they want their money back and won't wait until the end of the month. Perfectly functional companies have been wrecked in this way. I don't know if this is the case in this instance but it looks like it may be.
 
This project has been pretty well plagued by delays. Given how long it has taken, three more months is neither here nor there. Hope the cost implications aren't too disastrous.
This ^^..... Presumably a new contractor can be found and they can continue the work with the unspent portion of the HLF grant.
 
You've answered your own question: if they'd checked the credentials (as I'm sure they did) they presumably concluded a 150 year old company was a safe choice.
Yea but a company does not go bust from one day to the next or else it would not have survived for so long, imo they took the money, probably paid of whatever was more important to them and the rest can see where they go. Llike travel companies that make poeple pay for flights a day before they go bust, they know exactly what the state of their finances are, they just don't give a damn
 
if the HLF had any sense (and I expect they do) they would have provided the grant/funding in tranches on completion of each stage of the work - i doubt they would have given Kilby & Gayford the whole £6.5m upfront.
 
A project will get first half of money at the start, next quarter after work done and the rest after the evaluation.
 
Yea but a company does not go bust from one day to the next or else it would not have survived for so long, imo they took the money, probably paid of whatever was more important to them and the rest can see where they go. Llike travel companies that make poeple pay for flights a day before they go bust, they know exactly what the state of their finances are, they just don't give a damn

The bulk of a construction contract is normally paid in arrears, once the work has been signed off by a quantity surveyor. So I very much doubt whether K&G will have been sitting on much of BCA's money.

A large proportion of K&G's activity used to be specialist conservation jobs for institutional clients.

I suspect they have been badly hit by projects being cancelled/postponed by the double whammy of reduced public expenditure and less generous private donations to projects.

It must be a real worry for a lot of their specialist craft sub-contractors as well (several of which are long established south London businesses).
 
Yea but a company does not go bust from one day to the next or else it would not have survived for so long, imo they took the money, probably paid of whatever was more important to them and the rest can see where they go. Llike travel companies that make poeple pay for flights a day before they go bust, they know exactly what the state of their finances are, they just don't give a damn

From the figures in the last few posts, if this is a £6.5 million pound project (over a few years), of which they're probably getting most but not all, and they were predicting a £90 million profit (so much higher turnover) this year this is going to be a fairly small part of their overall work. I doubt their going under has that much to do with the BCA at all tbh.
 
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