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New Crossrail / Elizabeth line tube map released

The Kropotkin Line and the Bakunin Line and Marx can have Crossrail in the unlikely case of it ever being a built. I stick to Crowbob for Thameslink

One of my cities in Cities Skylines (PC Game, like sim city) has Kropotkin, Bakunin and Lenin lines. The one I'm currently playing has lines named after Brookside characters. I have the Ron Dixon line, the Barry Grant line and the Jimmy Corkhill line. I also have the Shaun William Ryder High School and the Bobby Robson memorial hospital.
 
well yes, but only up to as point. It's necessary to step down from existing train services to the platform because... well because the train was built that way. For some reason that's a bit mystifying the size of the step is occasionally bigger than usual and they have an announcement to warn us. Doubtless the Victorians can be blamed, but why the solution is an announcement rather than some civil engineering is anyone's guess. I've been vaguely puzzled about this for years.

It all seems most peculiar to me, and they probably had to write a special exemption into the DDA to make it legal :rolleyes:.

But here is an opportunity to organise the new railway so that there is no step by, eg, building the train to fit the existing platforms and if there's a discrepancy at some station to make the platform fit the train (as they did on the Victoria line a few years ago). Having designed the train around the existing stations they can then design the new stations around the train.

On the same theme I wonder about the mind the gag gap. It's inevitable on platforms built on a curve, but not all of them are, some are straight. So why not move the rails over a few inches, why insist people have to jump?
The Victoria line only has one type of rolling stock running on it. You seem to forget that the lines we're talking about have to be able to accommodate a wide range of rolling stock, including freight movements. The problem with making the train fit the existing platforms is probably down to the problem that that would mean the train dimensions would exceed the loading gauge.

such a fucking stupid name for a tube line. How many fucking things are we going to name after this hag? we got elizabeth land somewhere in Antarctica, elizabeth tower, 2 x navy destroyers called elizabeth and now elizabeth line? :rolleyes:
It's not a Tube line. How many more times?
 
I very much doubt it will ever be called the Liz or Lizzie line - Londoners just don't seem to like abbreviating line names. It's not the Vicky line or the Metro line; even Hammersmith and City doesn't get abbreviated often. Propah Lahndners will call it Crossrail, to emphasise how they were there before it changed names and are old school. Crossrail is a much better name anyway.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't see why it needs a name other than "Crossrail". Why does it need a name as if it were another Tube line, when it isn't? No wonder people are confused and think it is one. No other National Rail line is named in such a way.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't see why it needs a name other than "Crossrail". Why does it need a name as if it were another Tube line, when it isn't? No wonder people are confused and think it is one. No other National Rail line is named in such a way.
I think a lot of it is marketing. It may not be a tube line, but giving it the trappings of one enables property developers to pretend that the places they've been building gated communities on for the last few years in anticipation of its arrival are on the tube, in other words part of London. If you live there you're not a commuter, you're living in London - with the attendant price premium.
 
I know it's not a tube line. Was just saying....it's a daft name and i'm not going to be calling it that
 
Hopefully Crossrail will stick as the name. Does anyone other than officialdom call where the 2012 Olympics were centred "Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park"?
 
Why is it not a tube line? It has a long underground section and only one proper tube line (with more than two stops) runs completely underground anyway. The trains won't be compatible but then you couldn't run a Metropolitan line train on the Victoria line.
 
Why is it not a tube line? It has a long underground section and only one proper tube line (with more than two stops) runs completely underground anyway. The trains won't be compatible but then you couldn't run a Metropolitan line train on the Victoria line.
Because it's a National Rail line. It's nothing to do with the Tube.
 
Because it's a National Rail line. It's nothing to do with the Tube.
Well it's not 'nothing to do with the tube'. That's just silly talk. You will be able to get on a tube train, change underground to a crossrail train, change back to another tube train while still underground all on the same oyster card and it'll be run by TFL. Sounds like a tube train to me.
 
Well it's not 'nothing to do with the tube'. That's just silly talk. You will be able to get on a tube train, change underground to a crossrail train, change back to another tube train while still underground all on the same oyster card and it'll be run by TFL. Sounds like a tube train to me.
Of course it's not "silly talk"; it's a fact. I can only assume you aren't from London otherwise you would understand the difference. You can already use Oyster on lots of services which aren't the Tube, and TfL run other services which aren't the Tube.

Crossrail is a National Rail line, not the Tube. The track is owned and maintained by Network Rail, and the services run by a private company. The same as every other NR line, and not at all like the Tube.
 
Of course it's not "silly talk"; it's a fact. I can only assume you aren't from London otherwise you would understand the difference. You can already use Oyster on lots of services which aren't the Tube, and TfL run other services which aren't the Tube.

Crossrail is a National Rail line, not the Tube. The track is owned and maintained by Network Rail, and the services run by a private company. The same as every other NR line, and not at all like the Tube.
These are technicalities, though, surely. The Overground network isn't officially the tube, but most people seem to treat it as such, even calling overground stations tube stations. Hackney/Dalston people have definitely taken to calling the Overground the tube. And why not? Seems pretty functionally similar.

And, like the Overground, the new Elizabeth line logo is certainly designed to look tubey.
 
The Onedian Line?

The Clothesline?

The Thin Red Line?
The She's Line

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It's not a Tube line. How many more times?

Not until roundel fatigue leads to it being rebranded as one. The Met also behaves more like a standard railway than a tube and is probably more idiosyncratic than than Crossrail with all those fast and semifast trains and runs miles out into Buckinghamshire and in the past ran to Aylesbury and Brill which are further out than Reading.
 
Of course it's not "silly talk"; it's a fact. I can only assume you aren't from London otherwise you would understand the difference. You can already use Oyster on lots of services which aren't the Tube, and TfL run other services which aren't the Tube.

Crossrail is a National Rail line, not the Tube. The track is owned and maintained by Network Rail, and the services run by a private company. The same as every other NR line, and not at all like the Tube.
I think you'll find I am from London unlike you, carrot cruncher. TFL may give it a capital letter these days but 'the tube' originates as a nickname for London's underground trains dating from before they were nationalised and run as a single entity anyway. Like most Londoners I don't give a shit who sweeps the tracks. If it goes in a tunnel and links up with all the other underground trains it's going to get called the tube. Regardless of the opinions of banjo plucking bumpkins from the backwoods of Kent, no matter how locomotive obsessed.
 
I think you'll find I am from London unlike you, carrot cruncher. TFL may give it a capital letter these days but 'the tube' originates as a nickname for London's underground trains dating from before they were nationalised and run as a single entity anyway. Like most Londoners I don't give a shit who sweeps the tracks. If it goes in a tunnel and links up with all the other underground trains it's going to get called the tube. Regardless of the opinions of banjo plucking bumpkins from the backwoods of Kent, no matter how locomotive obsessed.
So Thameslink is "the tube" too is it?

And for the record I am a born and bred Londoner as a matter of fact.
 
It will be branded up and referred to so heavily in the media and on the network itself as the Elizabeth line that people will just use that name over time. I prefer 'crossrail' personally but it has been decided we must bestow all kinds of shit naming rights to Brenda, and so there it is.

It'll become normal like the O2 instead of "Millenium Dome" which hardly anyone says anymore.
 
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Good luck with that technically correct argument. I bet you kept telling everyone in 2000 that the new millennium hadn't started yet.
 
It'll become normal like the O2 instead of "Millenium Dome" which hardly anyone says anymore.
not at all convinced about that. For a start nobody ever said Millenium Dome except on the radio and equally no-one has ever called it the O2 in my presence. It's just the dome.
 
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