Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
International socialists, the swp in other words.
Naked baby from Nevermind sleeve sues Nirvana for Child Porn
- Thread starter David Clapson
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Not quite as bad as Islamic State then
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I’d say worse.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh worse like danny la rouge says
AverageJoe
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Pretty sure there have been many dodgy album covers over the years. It is what it is. A moment in time.
AverageJoe
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Cid
Proper break this time
LeytonCatLady
Well-Known Member
Yikes, poor kid. Talk about being sexualised from an early age! That was one thing I did like about being an early developer and starting to grow boobs at 10 - having to cover up. I was quite a self conscious kid when it came to my body and growing up in a big family, stubbornly keeping my T-shirt on even in high summer was one of the few bits of privacy I could get. Prior to puberty, that was sometimes dismissed with "Ah, your chest at your age is only the same as what the boys have!" although adults knew not to push it once I'd angrily refused. Even as a grown woman though, one or two people have clocked my double D's and told me I should go for glamour modelling. I was like "Fuck off, I'm not going to be anyone's wank fodder!" (No disrespect meant to anyone who genuinely feels empowered doing nude shots, just pissed me off hearing that sort of dubious "compliment" from people I liked).
And Nirvana Baby seems to have a very low opinion of women, doesn't he!
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Wonder what the outcome of this one was...
www.theguardian.com
Placebo album cover star threatens to sue band
After appearing on the 1996 cover of Placebo's debut album as a 12-year-old boy, David Fox is now threatening to sue the band for 'ruining' his life
David Clapson
Well-Known Member
I've got that one. Woolies put stickers on it. But at least the woman is an adult. Virgin Killer's sleeve with the 12 year old would probably be illegal to post here.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
Wonder what the outcome of this one was...
Placebo album cover star threatens to sue band
After appearing on the 1996 cover of Placebo's debut album as a 12-year-old boy, David Fox is now threatening to sue the band for 'ruining' his life
if only he was holding a fiver
Post-teenage angstWonder what the outcome of this one was...
Placebo album cover star threatens to sue band
After appearing on the 1996 cover of Placebo's debut album as a 12-year-old boy, David Fox is now threatening to sue the band for 'ruining' his life
Cid
Proper break this time
Wonder what the outcome of this one was...
Placebo album cover star threatens to sue band
After appearing on the 1996 cover of Placebo's debut album as a 12-year-old boy, David Fox is now threatening to sue the band for 'ruining' his life
Doesn’t seem to be any info, except that he did the Buzzcocks ID parade thing soon after. Possibly an out of court settlement with an NDA. Hope so, his case sounds a bit murkier (picture taken by cousin, without parents knowing it would be sold).
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Dunno, but I'd read between the lines that the cousin must have been a professional photographer and took the picture for his portfolio. We're before the days of social media, so it seems pretty unlikely that this was just a random family photo that came to the attention of a sleeve designer when they found it left at a bus stop or whatever.
ETA: A quick bit of googling reveals this is the cousin.
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
This.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
The child porn angle seems like a hell of a stretch to me and I get the feeling that the guy is driven far more by his desire for a share of the dosh far more than anything else.
Even so good look to him if he gets a cut. Someone getting money out of the undeserving rich is not something I object too.
It's one twat trying to extract cash from another twat, I have no dog in this fight and am happy to leave them to it.
Even so good look to him if he gets a cut. Someone getting money out of the undeserving rich is not something I object too.
It's one twat trying to extract cash from another twat, I have no dog in this fight and am happy to leave them to it.
Cid
Proper break this time
Yeah, but I mean in terms of how a legal case panned out, what there was actually consent to (in a contractual sense) would be relevant. Though of course that might end in Placebo recovering costs from the cousin? Dunno.
Hasn't he forfeit his right to any money with the absurdly outrageous child porn accusation though?
Reno
The In Kraut
His parents as his legal guardians gave consent and got paid.
My friend said the pornographic angle was raised when the album came out and Kurt Cobain said something along the lines of ' if you're offended by it you must be a closet paedophile'.
That seems to be an acknowledgement that it could be used for pornographic purposes.
That seems to be an acknowledgement that it could be used for pornographic purposes.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
It's also a fucking nasty way to criticize someone who doesn't like the image being on the cover.
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Seems to recall the offending area being stickered at one stage, to avoid outrage.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Seems cruel bearing in mind the distress the removal of the sticker would cause the infant
seeformiles
Lost in the wood
He’s replicated the cover on several occasions through the years:
Yossarian
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Legal experts say that while this isn't a typical child pornography case, the judge and jury can consider whether the image "constitutes a lascivious exhibition of the genitals" - and what Elden has said in the past shouldn't undermine the case.
Mr. Elden’s past comments about the cover should not undermine his current claim that he was a victim of child pornography, she added. The law does not pick between children who immediately denounce their abusers and children who initially were dismissive about what happened to them, she said.
“We don’t want to be in a position where we’re only going to consider one case criminal because in the other, the child didn’t think it was a big deal at the time,” Professor Graw Leary said. “We don’t only protect certain kids.”
www.nytimes.com
Mr. Elden’s past comments about the cover should not undermine his current claim that he was a victim of child pornography, she added. The law does not pick between children who immediately denounce their abusers and children who initially were dismissive about what happened to them, she said.
“We don’t want to be in a position where we’re only going to consider one case criminal because in the other, the child didn’t think it was a big deal at the time,” Professor Graw Leary said. “We don’t only protect certain kids.”
Why the Baby on Nirvana’s ‘Nevermind’ Album Is Suing Now (Published 2021)
Spencer Elden, 30, says Nirvana engaged in child pornography when the band used a picture of him naked on the cover of the breakthrough album.
Well that's ridiculous. Just another example that legal systems are flawed.Legal experts say that while this isn't a typical child pornography case, the judge and jury can consider whether the image "constitutes a lascivious exhibition of the genitals" - and what Elden has said in the past shouldn't undermine the case.
Mr. Elden’s past comments about the cover should not undermine his current claim that he was a victim of child pornography, she added. The law does not pick between children who immediately denounce their abusers and children who initially were dismissive about what happened to them, she said.
“We don’t want to be in a position where we’re only going to consider one case criminal because in the other, the child didn’t think it was a big deal at the time,” Professor Graw Leary said. “We don’t only protect certain kids.”
Why the Baby on Nirvana’s ‘Nevermind’ Album Is Suing Now (Published 2021)
Spencer Elden, 30, says Nirvana engaged in child pornography when the band used a picture of him naked on the cover of the breakthrough album.
I do think it's wrong that this guy has had his image taken and used without his consent, but he's going about things completely the wrong way.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
contact him and tell him how he should be doing this
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
There is nothing natural about an infant being shoved with no visible accompanying adult, into a swimming pool and used as a prop in a photoshoot.
The act in itself seems abusive and the fact, as Reno points out that his parents consented and profited, is irrelevant. The child could not have consented to being treated in that way.
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