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My Fathers Place on Coldharbour Lane to become a cocktail bar

Paint tins? paint tins? Old paint tins?

Nah - shit fake ones. These in fact:

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It's not an obviously promising location, but I'd be very surprised if they haven't done their homework and taken a calculated risk. It doesn't exactly seem like they are amateurs opening their first ever bar business.
I think you might be right. Having reflected on this, I reckon the hipsters would love nothing more than running the gauntlet of the CHL hustlers, with the promise of a handmade jizz 'n' gin cocktail served in a paint pot at the end. They could then instagram the results, whilst avoiding the grizzly old locals (Rushy and Leanderman) at the bar… ;)

Seriously though, look at Old Street/Shoreditch 15 years ago when people literally flocked to the scummiest bars down the dodgiest streets and loved it. Sure, a few people will be hassled and the more naive will be mugged for their ipads etc, but I imagine high pricing will be used to keep out perceived ne'er-do-wells and the moneyed punters will be happy once inside, rubbing shoulders with their vintage contemporaries.

I reckon smarmy skiing man might just be able to make it work if he's lucky. I hate what it represents though :(
 
There's still regular street fights in that stretch though and bloke was nearly stabbed to death six months ago, so it might be a bit too edgy and over-vibrant for some.
 
So pre-mixed is now cooler than made to order? Is this ironic, post-ironic or what? Either way it makes my head hurt...

Last summer at Caravan - next to the new St. Martins College in King's Cross - I ordered a 'draft' negroni. Yes I am a mug and they are clever charlatans. It was just like a normal negroni except it lacked the delicious intermingling/curdling together of the different ingredients (a proper one should not be stirred so much that they entirely blend together). The place does some good cooking but has tried so hard to be self-aware as to be totally unaware of the rather laboured quality of its own self-awareness.
 
I think you might be right. Having reflected on this, I reckon the hipsters would love nothing more than running the gauntlet of the CHL hustlers, with the promise of a handmade jizz 'n' gin cocktail served in a paint pot at the end. They could then instagram the results, whilst avoiding the grizzly old locals (Rushy and Leanderman) at the bar… ;)

Seriously though, look at Old Street/Shoreditch 15 years ago when people literally flocked to the scummiest bars down the dodgiest streets and loved it. Sure, a few people will be hassled and the more naive will be mugged for their ipads etc, but I imagine high pricing will be used to keep out perceived ne'er-do-wells and the moneyed punters will be happy once inside, rubbing shoulders with their vintage contemporaries.

I reckon smarmy skiing man might just be able to make it work if he's lucky. I hate what it represents though :(

They might be treated to a skirmish like this:

 
Did they really? How do you know?
All the people who liked the "edginess" and felt it made them more streetwise than mollycoddled folk in posher neighbourhoods.
Even my old mum would bang on with a sort of pride about running the gauntlet of dealers outside KFC and Woolies.
 
All the people who liked the "edginess" and felt it made them more streetwise than mollycoddled folk in posher neighbourhoods.
Even my old mum would bang on with a sort of pride about running the gauntlet of dealers outside KFC and Woolies.

what a grotesque thing that is - to reveal in a neighborhoods roughness whilst never really suffering any consequences.
 
All the people who liked the "edginess" and felt it made them more streetwise than mollycoddled folk in posher neighbourhoods.
Even my old mum would bang on with a sort of pride about running the gauntlet of dealers outside KFC and Woolies.
the only thing most newcomer people learn in brixton on a streetwise level is how to deal with the occasional dealer/begger in a way that's not going to escalate a situation. it's not as if these kids from the shires are going to have to learn suddenly how to deal with encroaching on the Peckham Boys "endz", or how to cook up crack, is it?
 
All the people who liked the "edginess" and felt it made them more streetwise than mollycoddled folk in posher neighbourhoods.
I moved here because:

(a) it was the only affordable place I could find where I knew someone and
(b) I was already involved in some of the grassroots political stuff going on in the area.

Pursuing 'edginess' was just about the last thing I was interested in, although we certainly had more than our fair share of that going in my neighbourhood.
 
All the people who liked the "edginess" and felt it made them more streetwise than mollycoddled folk in posher neighbourhoods.
Even my old mum would bang on with a sort of pride about running the gauntlet of dealers outside KFC and Woolies.
That's fascinating to hear about your Mum, but teuchter was specifically referring to "lots" of urban posters who apparently loved to "run the gauntlet of the CHL hustlers."

So far he's only described himself as one of these people so I was wondering who else he meant. Any (non family) ideas?
 
One of the things I've always enjoyed about Brixton is the potential for somewhat chaotic nights out. Not the only thing but it's a significant part of what attracted me initially. It's not so much the case now but that slightly anarchic atmosphere existed on the street and was something you felt when you came out of the tube and walked down Coldharbour Lane. I can't prove it scientifically but I'm pretty confident that it's something many so called "old-school" Brixton residents have been attracted to, sought out and enjoyed.

What made Brixton like that? The answer's complicated and it's not just down to wealth disparities. It's easy to dismiss relishing it as a kind of poverty tourism, but it's not as simple as that.

I'll accept that what drew certain people to Brixton, say, 15 years ago is not entirely the same thing that is drawing people here now, but there are some common factors and the night-time unruliness is one of them.
 
That's fascinating to hear about your Mum, but teuchter was specifically referring to "lots" of urban posters who apparently loved to "run the gauntlet of the CHL hustlers."

I moved here because:

(a) it was the only affordable place I could find where I knew someone and
(b) I was already involved in some of the grassroots political stuff going on in the area.

Pursuing 'edginess' was just about the last thing I was interested in, although we certainly had more than our fair share of that going in my neighbourhood.

Likewise, it is fascinating to hear about your reasons for moving here and useful to hear you clarify that you neighbourhood was so much edgier than others.
 
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One of the things I've always enjoyed about Brixton is the potential for somewhat chaotic nights out. Not the only thing but it's a significant part of what attracted me initially. It's not so much the case now but that slightly anarchic atmosphere existed on the street and was something you felt when you came out of the tube and walked down Coldharbour Lane. I can't prove it scientifically but I'm pretty confident that it's something many "old-school" Brixton residents have been attracted to it and enjoyed it.

What made Brixton like that? The answer's complicated and it's not just down to wealth disparities. It's easy to dismiss relishing it as a kind of poverty tourism, but it's not as simple as that.

I'll accept that what drew certain people to Brixton, say, 15 years ago is not entirely the same thing that is drawing people here now, but there are some common factors and the night-time unruliness is one of them.
In my experience the unruliness is still there, but what's going is the diversity that IMO drove some of that pleasurable/frightening chaos. Nowadays it's more and more young(ish) m/c white people, whilst back then the mix of class and ethnicity seemed bigger. I'm only going back as far as when I moved to Brixton -6, 7 years ago.
 
Likewise, it is fascinating to hear about your reasons for moving here and useful to hear you clarify that you neighbourhood was so much edgier than others.
I was answering specific points raised about urban posters. I don't think anyone asked about your Mum, did they?
 
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