My Fathers Place on Coldharbour Lane to become a cocktail bar

[editor]

Cocktails are okay. And cheap. And they give a discount for paying B£ by text.

Food's pretty decent, if a little hot for my pathetic palate.

Their banana and chocolate waffle with syrup is a thing of such wonder that it stops all conversation dead in its tracks

 

[Rushy]

Apologies if this has been mentioned elsewhere, but do you know whether the owners of My Fathers Place have sold up/lease expired/rent increased prohibitively?

I think the venue had been struggling for a few years. I don't think there is any suggestion that these cocktail folk had anything to do with it. As people are pointing out, it is not an obvious location and I'd imagine they would have chosen something a little more central if available / affordable.

 

[cuppa tee]

Ruddy hell. How are they linked to these two?

It's all there in the guys Linkedin profile that I included in my last post.... the bit about starting work for the Mint Group in March
was what struck me, he must like a challenge cos that's around the same time the new bar we're talking about opens. Maybe they've had enough
of all all that glossy stuff and fancy doing something with a bit of edginess........

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

Handmade cocktails, pretentious wank.

 

[leanderman]

Handmade cocktails, pretentious wank.

It is a bit ridiculous. And the 'counselling' stuff too.

 

[Dexter Deadwood]

It is a bit ridiculous. And the 'counselling' stuff too.

The poor posh are traumatised when they first move to Brixton. They will need an outlet for their angst.

 

[editor]

I think the venue had been struggling for a few years. I don't think there is any suggestion that these cocktail folk had anything to do with it. As people are pointing out, it is not an obvious location and I'd imagine they would have chosen something a little more central if available / affordable.

I get a strong impression that they don't really know much about this specific area at all, and just looked at the map, saw that it was down the road from the Village and their eyes lit up.

 

[T & P]

How very dare they.

 

[editor]

How very dare they.

Well, it might come back and bite them on the arse.

 

[snowy_again]

So one person's cocktail is good if you know them, but someone else's is bad if you don't know them?

 

[el-ahrairah]

I was just adding some detail that was posted on the public Twitter account for the new bar. I don't see it as sneery. In fact, I wish I was lucky enough to go skiiing.?

cue mental image of you ski-ing, with your dreads flailing out behind you.

 

[editor]

So one person's cocktail is good if you know them, but someone else's is bad if you don't know them?

I don't really like cocktails, so I'm not sure what your point is.

That said, I imagine price relative to location and the targeted demographic may play a part in how well a new business is received in an area.

 

[editor]

cue mental image of you ski-ing, with your dreads flailing out behind you.

I've never skied in my life. Going down the the lower slopes of Pen Y Fan on a cheap wooden sledge was as good as it ever got for me.

 

[TruXta]

cue mental image of you ski-ing, with your dreads flailing out behind you.

He'd look right at home 15 years ago. Nowadays all the ski crowds are too clean cut.

 

[Rushy]

I've never skied in my life. Going down the the lower slopes of Pen Y Fan on a cheap wooden sledge was as good as it ever got for me.

Alright Mr Flashy. When I was a kid we had to make do with sharing a bin bag.

 

[editor]

Alright Mr Flashy. When I was a kid we had to make do with sharing a bin bag.

Bin bags? Luxury!

 

[Pickman's model]

Bin bags? Luxury!

i suppose you had to scour the valleys for landfill to rest on.

 

[TruXta]

Bin bags? Luxury!

Errrr you had a wooden sledge, no?

When I was a kid we had these, lethal but bloody great fun

 

[teuchter]

It's not an obviously promising location, but I'd be very surprised if they haven't done their homework and taken a calculated risk. It doesn't exactly seem like they are amateurs opening their first ever bar business.

 

[editor]

Errrr you had a wooden sledge, no?

It wasn't mine - I had to borrow it!

Last time I went 'sledging' was on an urban walk when I found a bit of broken plastic and used that. It wasn't very successful. Other urbanites decided to not bother with anything at all.

http://www.urban75.org/walks/kenley-common-walk-3.html

Anyway, back to drink counselling...

 

[TruXta]

It's not an obviously promising location, but I'd be very surprised if they haven't done their homework and taken a calculated risk. It doesn't exactly seem like they are amateurs opening their first ever bar business.

That raises an interesting question - has the survival rate for new openings in the hospitality industry in Brixton changed over say the last 5 years? I don't know how you'd easily find out really.

 

[TruXta]

It wasn't mine - I had to borrow it!

Last time I went 'sledging' was on an urban walk when I found a bit of broken plastic and used that. It wasn't very successful. Other urbanites decided to not bother with anything at all.

http://www.urban75.org/walks/kenley-common-walk-3.html

Anyway, back to drink counselling...

Synthethic fibre trousers are a well known and accepted substitute

 

[leanderman]

Never really got skiing.

Even if I had the cash I'm not sure I'd do it.

 

[leanderman]

Errrr you had a wooden sledge, no?

When I was a kid we had these, lethal but bloody great fun

We have this, for the Brockwell Park slopes.

 

[editor]

That raises an interesting question - has the survival rate for new openings in the hospitality industry in Brixton changed over say the last 5 years? I don't know how you'd easily find out really.

We're certainly still losing pubs, but Kaff achieved the near-impossible and made a success of 66 Atlantic Road, and even Courtesan seems to be surviving in what can only be described as a cursed building.

That said, the Prince of Wales seems to feel the need to reinvent itself every five minutes to survive and the place in the old camping shop has had one failure after another.

 

[TruXta]

We have this, for the Brockwell Park slopes.

I preferred the more sledgey ones with front skis you could actually steer, but they're more expensive...

 

[Winot]

Have you seen Kaff has started the Rue Atlantic Supper Club? An "exclusive" monthly feast of Chef Myer's NOLA inspired cuisine with speciality cocktails created by Emanuel Ferris Hue. Their chef's food usual is seriously tasty so might be worth a go. I think Emanuel used to manage the bar and cocktails at Courtesan. They had a stunning whiskey cocktail called Courtesan with lapsansouchong tea which I presume was one of his creations. You need to book - no mention of prices on their site.

Must give the food a go - ate there when it first opened but not since. In fact, only went in the evening for the first time a week or so back and found the mojitos a bit lily-livered compared to Mango's (albeit cheaper).

 

[ViolentPanda]

I tried making cocktails by hand once but it proved very difficult, I think it's generally better to use some sort of watertight container to mix the liquid ingredients....

I know what you mean!
And the crushed ice played merry hell with my Reynaud's Syndrome!

 

[ViolentPanda]

Idiot. 'Handmade' means something that has broadly been made by human rather than machine labour, that's all. People these days are fucking stupid

It probably means, in this context, that the cocktail-mixer has a handjob into your Martini.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Hand-made cocktails. It's a bit like saying 'oven-baked' or 'pan-fried', isn't it. Stating the bleedin obvious, and pretentious.

Maybe they make their own spirits, mixers and syrups?

Nah, you're right! Pure pretension, innit?