I think it is probably just to aid their internal accounting. They charge you a certain amount in theory, then there is an explicit reduction that can be presumably cross-charged. No need to play along with that game in your DD setting thoughSounds like a cockup.
Surely that's a lot of excess cash - 53p instead of 34p per unit ?
What’s the energy rating of the new fridge-freezer? Mine is a Zanussi that will be 31 years old in December and it works perfectly, but I’m starting to look at replacements for when it eventually fails.
The old energy ratings range was from A+++ to D. Due to the advances in technology, around 80% of appliances on the market are clustered at the top of the scale, making it hard to work out which ones truly have the best rating. Simplifying the scale, new energy labels will range from A to G.
I stand corrected. This chap argues that the domestic Legionella risk is a lot lower than is generally accepted. With some caveats.Laundry's no problem - the washing machine is cold feed only (and mostly runs at 30C). I use a shower to wash, and only very, very rarely have a bath (the HWC doesn't really supply enough water for a decently full, decently warm bath). The only thing I really use hot water for is washing at the sink, and doing the washing up.
I'd be very wary of only heating the water to 40C, because there is a lot of evidence that, at temperatures much below 50, there is quite a risk of the cylinder becoming a breeding ground for legionella bacteria.
So, ah! is anyone else coming out "ahead" in the old 'lecky bill front??
If I'm reading my power monitor correctly, at 11 hours I'm looking at a consumption of .86kW. Which works out at 1.8kW/day.Sorry for the delay in replying, only just remembered to check, the energy rating is 'F' which is equal to 'A+' on the scale used pre-March 2021, and the annual energy rating is 229kwh, 627watts per day.
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I had a shouting match with someone elsewhere because of my insistence that my bill was "negative".So, ah! is anyone else coming out "ahead" in the old 'lecky bill front??
I'm hoping that by the time I really need heating I will be able to do away with my fridge which burns 2kwh per day.
We don't heat using electricity. Well we do, underfloor heating in the bathroom, you remember, the one that doesn't use any leccy. We've had it on for the last week, turns out it uses "quite a bit" maybe 5KWh a day, but that's not with the timer or the thermostat set. That's the next item to address, our main source of heat is bulk lpg central heating and I think we can get the that to last this winter / next summer / maybe next winter on the one tank full, and that's already bought and paid for. We also use wood and smokeless coal again this winter's is already bought and paid for. Don't get me wrong we're not going to be sat around in our underwear with the windows open sipping iced drinks (well, we will be sipping iced drinks, but the rest, not so)But, that comparison is to a bill at the old rates, how are doing during the current billing period?
Get another mammal. Piece of pissMy bed heating works quite well - ostensibly not much different to a hot water bottle or sharing the bed with another mammal.
50 watts averaged over 3 feet - up to 166 to prewarm ...
It doesn't do the feet though ...
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yes they sometimes doGet another mammal. Piece of piss
Direct debits spread the load throughout the year, you run up a big debt over winter, pay it down again over spring and summer and build up a credit over autumn ready for next winter. The government rebate is going to be more help for people who pay the bills as they fall due. For those of us on DD it's probably better to think of it as just extra income which you might spend on energy. I'm not planning to reduce my DD's during the period I get the rebate, I will stash the rebate away and class it as unexpected (but welcome) 'rainy day' funds.One thing just occurred to me...if people are paying by direct debit, as so many people do, and the payments are supposed to be evenly spread over the year, but the government rebate is only for the winter months - won't people suddenly have to pay more in spring, when they least expect it?
Esp if they reduce the inflated looking DD amounts now?
Like in my example, if I say to my flatmates now - let's reduce that direct debit to reflect the price guaranteed by the government now, and let's all pay x amount less into the house account, because we'll also be getting sixty pounds back - we'll have sixty pounds more to pay in spring, despite being actual energy consumption lower then?
Ours is going into the shopping budget which feels out of control.Direct debits spread the load throughout the year, you run up a big debt over winter, pay it down again over spring and summer and build up a credit over autumn ready for next winter. The government rebate is going to be more help for people who pay the bills as they fall due. For those of us on DD it's probably better to think of it as just extra income which you might spend on energy. I'm not planning to reduce my DD's during the period I get the rebate, I will stash the rebate away and class it as unexpected (but welcome) 'rainy day' funds.
Thank you, that is helpful. The manual for my 31 year old fridge-freezer says “Average daily units 2.7Kwh”. Daily, vs your 627Kwh is quite incredible. Maybe I won’t wait until this one packs up, and replace it sooner rather than later. I’ve just learned that large electrical appliances can be bought via Boots, earning the loyalty card points, although they are supplied, delivered and installed by AO.com.Sorry for the delay in replying, only just remembered to check, the energy rating is 'F' which is equal to 'A+' on the scale used pre-March 2021, and the annual energy rating is 229kwh, 627watts per day.
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Thank you, that is helpful. The manual for my 31 year old fridge-freezer says “Average daily units 2.7Kwh”. Daily, vs your 627Kwh is quite incredible. Maybe I won’t wait until this one packs up, and replace it sooner rather than later. I’ve just learned that large electrical appliances can be bought via Boots, earning the loyalty card points, although they are supplied, delivered and installed by AO.com.
have you tested your smoke detector recently?My bed heating works quite well - ostensibly not much different to a hot water bottle or sharing the bed with another mammal.
50 watts averaged over 3 feet - up to 166 to prewarm ...
It doesn't do the feet though ...
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I got the one two sheds recommended. Of course, I have no idea if it is accurate or notHas anyone bought a power usage meter to measure devices? Are they much a muchness or is it something it pays to spend a few pounds more?
Upthread there were some ebay links - as low as £12.99Has anyone bought a power usage meter to measure devices? Are they much a muchness or is it something it pays to spend a few pounds more?
I still need at least four freezer drawers, five would be even better, and no less fridge space than I have now. And frost-free, as mine has never had any ice build up, unlike both my daughters’ freezers which constantly jam up with ice. Two of the fridge door compartments cracked and are duct-taped, and I’ve replaced the bulb twice, but really it’s a great testimony to the longevity of Zanussi appliances (or at least, their ‘80s and ‘90s build - the new replacement I bought for a 34 year old electric oven is rubbish in comparison). I might look at pre-owned.TBF the fridge-freezer I got is about 2/3rd the size of the old one, basically about half way between my former full-sized upright and the standard under the counter models. but it's enough for me, and the savings are very pleasing, together with the air-flyer & a few other small changes, I've gone from about 5kwh of electric a day in August, to an average of 2.7kwh a day so far this month.
I don't usually replace things until they break, but on this occasion I am bloody glad a did.