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More police brutality than you can shake a stick at.

_Russ_ said:
I've long thought that the main factor guiding police treatment of the public outside of misogyny is Class/social position.
Perhaps not In the USA where Racism is probably equally to blame (IMO).

In my experience It regularly shows itself in discussions with well off/ socially secure mid/upper class people who genuinely see the Police as a force for good as they've never experienced how they treat people of lower class.

"Protection of the wealthy, defence of privilege" has always been the most memorable line from a Crass song to me

P.S. I've never met a straight pig
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protection for the wealthy, if you bother listening to the song
 
Petcha said:
Pushin the boat out here. Blaming white supremacy for this latest heinous crime. I mean. I hate the fucking police as much, or more, than most people. But I don't think white supremacy can be to blame here.

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Just on this - I think we can disagree about whether or not "white supremacy" is a useful term to use for things like institutional/systemic racism, the protection of a social order which functions through racial division and so on, but I think the basic argument is correct. I hope we'd all agree that there wasn't an end to the systemic racism of the US state under Barack Obama, or the Home Office under Braverman, or the British state under Sunak, and so on, so I don't see why a police force employing black cops to beat people to death should be seen as any more significant. I think the racism, or white supremacy if people think that's a helpful term, lies less in the subjective intentions of the cops involved in the incident, and more in the entire structure that led to those cops being there, primed for violence, in the first place, if that makes sense?
 
Petcha said:
Pushin the boat out here. Blaming white supremacy for this latest heinous crime. I mean. I hate the fucking police as much, or more, than most people. But I don't think white supremacy can be to blame here.

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Yasmin Alibhai-Brown has a handy article here explaining how culture continues to drive oppressive behaviour with the help of assimilationists (with reference to Dick, Braverman, Patel et al)
inews.co.uk

Tyre Nichols' killing illustrates why diversity is no guarantee of a just society

Minorities in positions of power often embrace institutionalised cultures
inews.co.uk inews.co.uk
 
hitmouse said:
Isn't it just a remarkably unfortunate coincidence that, during this major police operation, all the body camera footage, that would definitely have proved the police were telling the truth and not lying, just happened to go missing? What are the chances of that, eh?
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Update on this: Atlanta PD have now released the body camera footage that allegedly didn't exist:
theintercept.com

Officer in Cop City Bodycam Footage Suggests Fellow Cop Was Shot by Friendly Fire

Footage from the aftermath of a deadly police raid on anti-Cop City protesters shows an Atlanta cop asking, “They shoot their own man?”
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The footage appears to show officers asking whether the state trooper who had been shot was wounded by one of his own.

“You fucked your own officer up,” one Atlanta Police Department officer is heard saying in the footage released Wednesday. He later walks up to two other officers and asks, “They shoot their own man?”
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Lurdan said:
Mentally ill inmate tased, frozen to death in Alabama jail, suit alleges - al.com (archived)
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This is also about the messed up state of the US medical system, if someone is having a crisis call the cops, who will likely murder them, because you have nobody else to go to. Where’s the fucking social safety net?

This was a lot of what ‘defund the police’ protests were about, calling for resources to be diverted to other provisions for mental health, addiction treatment and so on, but it’s always been characterised as an attack on the police. If properly explained the police would probably support it as it can’t be the easiest part of their job, lacking training and tools for dealing with it.
 
This here is a terrible indictment of american corporate culture, coming to a hospital near you soon courtesy of HCA etc. WARNING - it's distressing footage, but i believe i'm justified in posting it to highlight the inhumanity and brutality seemingly inherent within a culture which ostensibly knows the cost of everything but the value of nothing, that we continue to argue for a kinder, more compassionate culture here:
 
www.denverpost.com

Colorado deputy shot and killed unarmed man at point-blank range after struggle outside middle school, video shows

The encounter never should have escalated to the point of a physical struggle or deadly force, according to the wrongful-death lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court against Pueblo County and five sh…
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A Pueblo County sheriff’s deputy shot and killed an unarmed man outside of a middle school last year after contacting the man because he accidentally got into the wrong car in the school’s pick-up line, a federal civil rights lawsuit filed Tuesday alleges.


The deputy, Charles McWhorter, yanked 32-year-old Richard Ward from his mother’s car outside Liberty Point International Middle School in Pueblo West on Feb. 22, 2022, after Ward put something in his mouth while McWhorter spoke to him, according to body camera footage released by attorneys representing Ward’s family.


Ward and McWhorter briefly struggled on the ground before McWhorter shot Ward three times in the chest at point-blank range, the video shows.


Neither McWhorter nor another deputy on scene, Cassandra Gonzales, provided medical care to Ward as he lay bleeding on the ground, the footage shows. McWhorter didn’t give Ward orders before pulling him from the car and never gave a warning that he was going to use deadly force, the video shows.

Ward died on the ground outside the school as kids wearing backpacks walked past. The entire incident, from first contact to shots fired, lasted two minutes.

“Richard Ward’s death is a profound injustice — an unarmed, cooperative citizen shot and killed in front of his mother by a Pueblo County sheriff’s deputy,” said Darold Killmer, the Ward family’s attorney. “This was nothing short of state-sanctioned murder of a citizen who should not have been even arrested, let alone killed in broad daylight.”

Tenth Judicial District Attorney Jeff Chostner in October chose not to charge the deputies in connection to Ward’s death because he found they justifiably feared for their lives and acted reasonably. In interviews with investigators, McWhorter said Ward was grabbing his duty belt and he feared Ward would take his gun, according to the letter explaining Chostner’s decision.


But the encounter never should have escalated to the point of a physical struggle or deadly force, according to the wrongful-death lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court against Pueblo County and five sheriff’s officials. McWhorter “recklessly and deliberately initiated a wholly unnecessary and purposeless physical use of force against and struggle with Mr. Ward,” the lawsuit states.

Ward had not committed a crime and was answering the deputies’ questions when McWhorter took him to the ground, the lawsuit states.

“My heart is broken,” Ward’s mother, Kristy Ward Stamp, said in a statement. “I have no words to explain this to Richard’s little brother. Our family has been ripped apart.”

McWhorter approached Ward in Stamp’s car after a call about a suspicious man trying to open car doors, according to the district attorney’s letter. One person reported the man may be “on something” and acted “aggressive” with one car, according to the letter.

People on scene directed McWhorter to Stamp’s car, where Ward, Stamp and Stamp’s boyfriend sat inside, body camera footage shows.

Ward explained to McWhorter that they were waiting to pick up his little brother from school. Ward told McWhorter that cops make him nervous because he had been hit by officers before.

McWhorter asked Ward whether he’d had that experience with the police department or the sheriff’s office.

“We’re different, we’re the sheriff’s office,” McWhorter said.

Ward explained to McWhorter that he accidentally got into the wrong car because he mistook the vehicle for his mother’s. McWhorter then asked for Ward’s identification and whether he had any weapons. As Ward searched for his ID, he said he might have a pocket knife and showed McWhorter two lighters.

Ward then put something in his mouth, causing McWhorter to grab him by the jacket and push him to the ground, the video shows.

“It was a pill, let me go!” Ward said as he was pushed to the ground, according to the video. The pill was likely anxiety medication Ward had been prescribed, Killmer said.

McWhorter’s body camera fell off during the ensuing struggle, but footage from Gonzales’s camera shows the two deputies struggling with Ward for 20 seconds before McWhorter shot Ward.

Ward lay on the ground after he was shot, but neither deputy rendered aid or checked his vital signs.

Ward’s mother, still sitting in the front passenger seat of the car, can be heard on body camera screaming, “Is my son shot?”

The deputies didn’t answer her except to tell her to stay in the car. Ward was dead by the time fire department paramedics arrived five minutes later.

McWhorter told a fellow sheriff’s deputy that Ward “headbutted my nose and then tried grabbing at my stuff,” body camera footage shows.
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Autopsy reveals anti-'Cop City' activist's hands were raised when shot and killed
A second autopsy of an environmental activist who was shot and killed by the Georgia State Patrol on Jan. 18 shows their hands were raised when they were killed, lawyers for their family say. The full autopsy report will be released at a press conference Monday.

The 26-year-old protester, Manuel Esteban Paez Terán, was killed in an Atlanta-area forest while police cleared an encampment of activists who oppose the construction of Atlanta's "Cop City" — or Public Training Safety Facility. Terán went by Tortuguita.

"Both Manuel's left and right hands show exit wounds in both palms. The autopsy further reveals that Manuel was most probably in a seated position, cross-legged when killed," lawyers said in a press release.

Last month, Tortuguita's family said they were shot at least a dozen times.

The Georgia Bureau of Investigation says officers killed Tortuguita in self-defense after they shot a state trooper, but the City of Atlanta released videos in which an officer suggests the trooper may have been injured by friendly fire.

The Atlanta Police Department said that the "officers had no immediate knowledge of the events at the shooting site" before making their comments, and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation said that officer's speculation is not evidence.

Tortuguita's family has sued for the release of more information under the Georgia Open Records Act, the press release says.

"Imagine the police killed your child. And now then imagine they won't tell you anything. That is what we are going through," Belkis Terán, Tortuguita's mother, said in a statement.

The Georgia Bureau of Investigation hasn't released the government's autopsy report or met with Tortuguita's family, and it blocked the City of Atlanta from releasing more video evidence. It has said there's no body camera or dashcam footage of the shooting, and that ballistics evidence shows the bullet that injured the trooper came from a gun belonging to Tortuguita.
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Antisemitism and institutional racism in California:

A man's car was towed away in Torrance, CA. When he went to retrieve it two days later, he found it trashed and with a swastika spray-painted on the rear seat.

The seats were covered with cereal and protein powder. On the front seat was a white smiley face drawn with spray paint.

On the rear seat, someone had spray-painted a swastika.
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Torrance police officers allegedly told [the car's owner, Kiley] Swaine, who is part Jewish, that the tow yard accepted responsibility for the vandalism. But Swaine’s lawsuit, which he filed in January 2022, alleged that the department had in fact concealed that the two officers who’d arrested Swaine, Cody Weldin and Christopher Tomsic, were the vandals who had painted the hateful symbol inside Swaine’s car on the night of his arrest.

In August 2021, the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office charged Weldin and Tomsic in connection with the vandalism. Swaine sued them and the city of Torrance five months later. Last month, the city settled with Swaine for $750,000, his attorney announced Thursday.

“I have been suing police officers for 39 years and I have never seen anything like this,” Swaine’s attorney, Jerry Steering, said in the statement.

The city of Torrance directed a request for comment to the Torrance Police Department. A police department spokesperson declined to comment.
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This is the culture the two officers are a part of.

Swaine’s lawsuit [...] uncovered evidence of what the office described as alarmingly racist beliefs held by many officers within the Torrance Police Department.

Investigators looking into Swaine’s vandalism case retrieved gigabytes of racist text message exchanges, including jokes about Black men being lynched and “gassing” Jewish people, between at least a dozen Torrance police officers that dated back to 2018, the Los Angeles Times reported. Tomsic and Weldin, who were fired in March 2020 when the investigation began, were among the officers who’d sent offensive messages, according to the Times.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/03/21/torrance-police-car-swastika-settlement/

archived: Calif. city pays $750,000 after police allegedly paint swastika in ca…
 
I'm surprised there was a phone left to get the footage off of. Bastard didn't look very happy once he clocked them filming.
 
Orang Utan said:
Not only are US armed officials corrupt, murderous and psychopathic, they’re also thick as mince:
www.theguardian.com

FBI arrests guardsman who applied for job on RentAHitman.com

Josiah Garcia reportedly told undercover agent he was an excellent shot and willing to torture people and cut off fingers or ears
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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The FBI used to post ads in a magazine called "Soldier of Fortune" (Soldier of Fortune (magazine) - Wikipedia) It was a magazine for survivalist types that had "field reports" from Mercs in Africa and other countries showing people wandering around with guns. Other articles would rate guns or other kit. I suspect that 99% of it was fake. The FBI regularly posted ads for recruiting hitmen. When someone applied, they'd go arrest them. Mostly it was a trap for the terminally stupid.
 
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Pickman's model said:
and more to the point as regards this thread, this man was not a policeman
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I am aware of that, hence my initial wording. I think this thread is robust enough to widen its remit to National Guardsmen too, since they’ve been used to suppress uprisings against the police and The Man in general
 
Orang Utan said:
I am aware of that, hence my initial wording. I think this thread is robust enough to widen its remit to National Guardsmen too, since they’ve been used to suppress uprisings against the police and The Man in general
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not to mention enforcing desegregation and taking on the ku klux klan. but i struggle to find a time when the air national guard - the branch in question - was activated in support of the civil authority to suppress riots or revolts. maybe you can find a time or two.
 
Pickman's model said:
not to mention enforcing desegregation and taking on the ku klux klan. but i struggle to find a time when the air national guard - the branch in question - was activated in support of the civil authority to suppress riots or revolts. maybe you can find a time or two.
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In Portland during the BLM uprisings
 
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