Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[London_Calling]

Nice. Leveson pipes up and gives Robert Jay a small break, and then they come back at JM two-handed. Be interesting to see if this is repeated at the end of each section of questioning.

 

[gabi]

Murdoch looks truly rough. And beaten.

 

[gabi]

He's recovered a bit. Anyone know if Cameron can be called to this inquiry btw? That seems to be the angle Jay is taking...

 

[Dan U]

not looking great for the politicians here

enjoyed hearing Jay swearing live on 5Live and Bacon frantically apologising!

 

[DrRingDing]

not looking great for the politicians here

enjoyed hearing Jay swearing live on 5Live and Bacon frantically apologising!

In what context?

 

[Orang Utan]

he was reading out an email about NOTW paying people to 'fuck off' or summat like that

 

[Dan U]

In what context?

from the guardian

Murdoch says it seemed like "people were speaking out of different sides of their mouth" about the BSkyB takeover bid.
The inquiry hears that Jeremy Hunt was "very frustrated" that he received "strong legal advice" not to meet James Murdoch about the bid. Murdoch says he was "displeased" with this.
Michel advised Murdoch to "have a chat with him [Hunt] on his mobile, which is fine". Murdoch says "not to my mind" was this a surreptitious phone call. Hunt later called Murdoch to apologise for a cancelled meeting, he says.
Jay reads another email from Murdoch to Michel in which Murdoch says "you must be fucking joking. I will text him and find a time" to meet and avoid legal obstacles.
Murdoch tells Jay: "As I said earlier, I was displeased."

 

[DrRingDing]

Ta and ta.

 

[Balbi]

The Hulture Secretary, Jeremy Cunt, is in a fucktonne of trouble. St Vince must be laughing himself silly. More tory shambles.

 

[Dan U]

The Hulture Secretary, Jeremy Cunt, is in a fucktonne of trouble. St Vince must be laughing himself silly. More tory shambles.

isn't he just.

also Murdoch Jnr admitting that he had discussed the bid with Cameron over one of their jolly get togethers in the Cotswolds. Which iirc Number 10 have either denied or avoided answering.

Imagine Murdoch Snr is going to put the boot in as well. His twitter account has basically been an attack on the Tories every few days, including this morning

 

[Santino]

According to Twitter, Ladbrokes have suspended betting on whether Hunt will leave the cabinet next.

 

[binka]

it was only yesterday that cameron was declaring that the tory fightback starts now

 

[Teaboy]

isn't he just.

also Murdoch Jnr admitting that he had discussed the bid with Cameron over one of their jolly get togethers in the Cotswolds. Which iirc Number 10 have either denied or avoided answering.

Imagine Murdoch Snr is going to put the boot in as well. His twitter account has basically been an attack on the Tories every few days, including this morning

The Sun and Times have taken a noticibly hostile stance towards Cameron of late, so yes Murdoch snr might let a few things slip.

 

[London_Calling]

Sleeeeeaze.

Ken might have liked this to have happened next week.

 

[sleaterkinney]

It's great stuff

 

[Dan U]

In an email on 11 January 2011, Michel said Hunt "wants us to take the heat with him in the next two weeks" and "he shared our objectives", the inquiry hears.
Murdoch was given a detailed briefing on what Hunt was planning to say to parliament on 23 January.

 

[DaveCinzano]

it was only yesterday that cameron was declaring that the tory fightback starts now

As fightbacks go, you couldn't get much more Sun Tzu than this.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Hunt is toast

 

[Dan U]

Hunt is toast

isn't he just

Paddypower suspended betting now as well.

Murdoch maintains he was "very worried" about the prospect of the BSkyB bid, despite the positive signals he was receiving from the office of Hunt.
In another email on 23 January 2011, Michel says: "He [Hunt] is keen for me to work with his team on the [Hunt] statement ... and offer some possible language".
Separately Michel says he has managed to get some information about Hunt's proposed statement "although absolutely illegal".
To gasps in the courtroom, Murdoch stresses that this is a joke, but he is "not so sure" whether this is illegal.
Jay describes it as a "sneak preview" as the secretary of state's planned statement to parliament.

 

[Teaboy]

Some tories might be wondering why an inquiry that Cameron himself essentially set up and set the terms for is now blowing up in his face.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Murdoch - "can't remember what was confidential or not"

 

[Dan U]

Some tories might be wondering why an inquiry that Cameron himself essentially set up and set the terms for is now blowing up in his face.

i think the relationship between him and Murdoch has deteriorated since he set this up

i wonder if Cameron is frantically trying to cut a deal in the background with Murdoch Snr to save his own bacon tomorrow.

 

[veracity]

O this has cheered me right up today. Looks like the Murdochs are going to take a few down with them... next stop Cameron?

 

[agricola]

O this has cheered me right up today. Looks like the Murdochs are going to take a few down with them... next stop Cameron?

Everyone at the top of British politics since 1997 will be in the frame, if this continues. Lets face it, they all nuzzled up to the Murdoch teats.

 

[London_Calling]

But this is specifics; dates, times, names, details of background/secret/even illegal contact between an organisation looking to influence Gov decision on a hugely important issue (the BSkyB bid) and a Minister. That's the difference.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Everyone at the top of British politics since 1997 will be in the frame, if this continues. Lets face it, they all nuzzled up to the Murdoch teats.

That's what I was thinking, if it's only this government that gets hit it will be remarkable. Though I guess it's arguable how much people will bother with those not in power, which would be rather apt I suppose.

 

[agricola]

But this is specifics; dates, times, names, details of background/secret/even illegal contact between an orgainsation looking to influence Gov decision on a hugely important issue (the BSkyB bid) and a Minister. That's the difference.

Yes, but as I argued much earlier in the thread - and which has been obliquely referred to at the inquiry - there is a good chance that a worse (though much more successful) use of undue influence occured under Labour when Goodman and Mulcaire got banged up.

Also for all the closeness between NI and the Tories under Cameron, Labour were much closer to them and for a far longer period of time - for instance Blair's trips out to see Murdoch, the leaking of election dates, the leaking of Hutton, the pro-Iraq war cheerleading etc etc

 

[veracity]

That's what I was thinking, if it's only this government that gets hit it will be remarkable. Though I guess it's arguable how much people will bother with those not in power, which would be rather apt I suppose.

Yet another thing for Bliar to claim amnesia about no doubt.

 

[London_Calling]

And Blair flew 'across the world' to meet Murdoch, yada yada.

It means nothing without evidence. This is evidence.

 

[Dan U]

I can't see Murdoch even laying a glove on Blair tbh. What is his motivation? He is angry with this lot, they've fucked him over (in his head). Blair gets invited to his Jesus like christening of his child on the Jordan ffs