Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[Lord Camomile]

"You'll never take me aliiiiiiiive!"

One can hope...

 

[London_Calling]

Breaking news: Scotland Yard releases ex-News of the World US editor James Desborough from bail after arrest in connection with phone hacking last year. More details soon ...

From bail

Not sure what this means atm... bail relating to the charges from last year ..

 

[ymu]

That states that he's been released from the bail conditions imposed after his arrest last year - no mention of his being re-arrested.

 

[London_Calling]

You're right, I was getting excited over a possible arrest in relation to the US.

 

[ymu]

I can empathise with that!

It'll come. I think NewsCorp could go under before the dust (and money) settles on these cases

 

[sleaterkinney]

More NDS stuff here:

http://www.afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/pay_tv_piracy_hits_news_OV8K5fhBeGawgosSzi52MM

 

[teqniq]

More NDS stuff here:

http://www.afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/pay_tv_piracy_hits_news_OV8K5fhBeGawgosSzi52MM

That has made my head spin! If NI are are not toast over this in some way or another it will be a most miraculous escape. There should be jail time a-plenty all round.

 

[DexterTCN]

More NDS stuff here:

http://www.afr.com/p/business/marketing_media/pay_tv_piracy_hits_news_OV8K5fhBeGawgosSzi52MM

Stunning. And also....timely.

In the waters that murdoch and henchmen/women swim...those two are rarely coincidental together.

Looking good.

 

[butchersapron]

Australia update: Federal police join News probe

The Australian Federal Police has revealed it is working with UK police investigating the News Corporation phone hacking scandal in a statement hours after The Australian Financial Reviewexposed News’s role in high-tech piracy that sabotaged its pay TV rivals and damaged Australian operators such as Austar.

The Gillard government described the pay TV piracy claims raised in the Financial Review yesterday as “serious” and called for “any allegations of criminal activity” to be referred to the AFP

 

[London_Calling]

How did they get hold of that hard drive, I wonder....

Didn't do anything illegal though, News Corp - not as far as we currently know. Australian law was behind the curve on piracy.

I suppose it might feed into the 'fit and proper' test vis a vie Ofcom and BSkyB. MIght have more luck down under following that (known) single case of phone hacking.

 

[magneze]

Evidence emerging of shady practices at the Fail? Lovely stuff.

The Daily Mail spent an estimated £143,000 asking a private eye to make 1,728 potentially illegal requests to unearth phone numbers and addresses of public figures over a three-year period, including personal details of the young Kate Middleton and her sister Pippa.
Journalists at the newspaper asked for private information on average more than once a day, and occasionally asked for individual criminal record checks. Its reporters demanded roughly twice as many searches as was previously thought, according to research conducted by ITV News.
The tabloid demanded the private information between 2000 and 2003 from Steve Whittamore – whose targets for a range of newspapersincluded the union leader Bob Crow, the family of the murder victim Holly Wells, members of the England football team and the singer Charlotte Church.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/mar/28/daily-mail-requests-private-detective

 

[Lord Camomile]

Throughout all of this I can't stop thinking that The Guardian must be really confident of their own practices, otherwise the schadenfreude will be merciless.

 

[Orang Utan]

I saw a PDF of a report that stated that they were all at it, including the Guardian.
It's on this thread somewhere

 

[laptop]

I saw a PDF of a report that stated that they were all at it, including the Guardian.
It's on this thread somewhere

It's the Motorman report and it says they were all at it except the Guardian - but including the Sunday Guardian, aka the Observer.

 

[butchersapron]

Now out of date due to the ITV news research (edit: this is from one of the Information Commissioners two reports based on Motorman - motorman is now falling to pieces)

 

[Orang Utan]

Well, yes. The Observer is to The Guardian as NoTW was to The Sun.

 

[butchersapron]

This is the full ITV breakdown, substantially different from the ICO table above (Observer £13,270 ON 201 REQUESTS btw)

(check the url on that link as well)

 

[butchersapron]

And the potential link between Motorman and the wider hacking issue (not to mention Leveson and others reluctance to look again or release the Motorman info) - this from Leveson (Owens was senior investigating officer at the ICO during Motorman)

Robert Jay QC:You tell us in 5.2 [of your written evidence] you read about Glenn Mulcaire’s arrest which we know took place on 8 August 2006. You say you certainly never associated it with Operation Motorman. Do you now associate it in some way with Operation Motorman, Mr Owens?

Alec Owens: Yes.

Robert Jay QC: And why?

Alec Owens: Basically, at the time one of the burning questions was, especially for the ex-directory mobile phone numbers, what could all these journalists want it for? You’re talking about thousands and thousands of telephone ex-directory numbers. And essentially I — well, I can say, an awful lot of the names of the victims that are coming up in hacking are in Operation Motorman, Steve Whittamore’s books. An awful lot. And my personal feeling was Steve Whittamore was gathering the numbers — he wasn’t hacking, he was definitely not into hacking, we found no evidence of that. But he was then passing them to the papers and possibly those numbers were being passed to people who hacked. I mean the names of people like Milly Dowler, the numbers, ex-directory numbers, that sort of thing, and it wasn’t just an occasional one. There were dozens of them, of the names that have now come out in the hacking Inquiry.

Robert Jay QC: I should ask this question: did you see reference to the Dowlers’ ex-directory numbers in the Operation Motorman material?

Alec Owens: Yes.

(Oral Evidence, November 30, 2011)

So, according to Owens, dozens of the phone hacking names match up with the Motorman names. Even the Dowlers’ ex-directory numbers are in the Motorman files.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Previous figures published by the ICO in their 2006 report “What Price Privacy Now” are in some cases well below our figures. We believe this is because the ICO has failed to count requests where no paper is explicitly named in the books.

http://www.itv.com/news/2012-03-28/backgrounder-do-not-publish-do-not-publish/

 

[laptop]

backgrounder-do-not-publish-do-not-publish/

 

[London_Calling]

Met Police press chief Dick Fedorcio resigns

The communications chief at the Metropolitan Police, Dick Fedorcio, has resigned after proceedings for gross misconduct were started against him.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission launched an inquiry last year after it emerged he had contracted out work to a PR firm run by ex-News of the World deputy editor Neil Wallis.

Last week it ruled Mr Fedorcio should face a hearing for gross misconduct.

But the IPCC said his resignation meant this could not now take place.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17548876

 

[Bernie Gunther]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17548876

Which is pretty much an admission of gross misconduct.

 

[London_Calling]

Yep, obv. in fear of that hard-hitting, rooting-out-wrongdoing organisation the, erm, IPCC.

 

[DexterTCN]

And another one down and another one down another one bites the dust.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Yep, obv. in fear of that hard-hitting, rooting-out-wrongdoing organisation the, erm, IPCC.

Indeed. If his gross misconduct was so gross that even the IPCC couldn't find a way to cover it up.

 

[agricola]

And the potential link between Motorman and the wider hacking issue (not to mention Leveson and others reluctance to look again or release the Motorman info) - this from Leveson (Owens was senior investigating officer at the ICO during Motorman)

Its not that surprising that the same names appear in both lists, given that many of the targets are going to be celebrities / political figures / sportspeople etc.

It will be interesting to see if Leveson keeps on at the Motorman evidence though - the allegations are much more serious than mere phone-hacking and, unfortunately for the hacks involved, none of the people who commissioned the corruption (as opposed to Whittamore who ran it, and three of the corrupted employees who used their access to obtain the data requested) ever faced court action, so charges could be still be brought against them.

 

[butchersapron]

Sure, but the key bit was the Dowlers numbers being in both lists.

 

[London_Calling]

I've only just remembered a slightly curious piece - in parts - from Michael White a couple of days ago:

So there's a worry that sooner or later Murdoch or his successors will cut their losses in Britain and sell their remaining newspapers – the Sun, Times and Sunday Times – creating greater instability all round. Who will buy them? Russian oligarchs? Middle Eastern sovereign funds? It isn't just about lost jobs or choice of newspaper, it's also about press freedom.

The diligent and well-meaning Lord Justice Leveson, still in over his head the last time I paid a trip to court 73, is also a real worry. He could botch the new regulatory framework to the detriment of the wider public interest and the benefit of the rich and secretive, people like Murdoch himself.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2012/mar/27/rupert-murdoch-prices-values

 

[savoloysam]

Check out C4 news now, it's getting even more dirtier.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Check out C4 news now, it's getting even more dirtier.

The "secret" police corruption report?