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The station isn’t open currently so perhaps they use the carriage out of season. I’d have quite fancied a scone actually
 
The station isn’t open currently so perhaps they use the carriage out of season. I’d have quite fancied a scone actually
Actually, my visit was prior to the difficulties that resulted in the LR, effectively, going bust ...

and now I want jam and scones myself ...
 
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Good Grief !



The things that turn up in charity shops !
A few questions about that find ...

was it "expired" [not used, but beyond the "best before date" ?
where did it come from ...
Quite a lot of NR now longer uses dets aka bangers !

[the last ones I handled, nearly three decades ago, I think were made with plain metal cases ...
I do recall them being used back in the 1960s to "celebrate" the last train leaving on the journey home from the far end of a branch line ... the stink on the dmu was potent !]
[a few years ago a utube clip appeared with a freight diesel trundling up & down some sidings at a MPD, blowing up loads of "expired" / "surplus" dets ...]
 
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Good Grief !



The things that turn up in charity shops !
A few questions about that find ...

was it "expired" [not used, but beyond the "best before date" ?
where did it come from ...
Quite a lot of NR now longer uses dets aka bangers !

[the last ones I handled, nearly three decades ago, I think were made with plain metal cases ...
I do recall them being used back in the 1960s to "celebrate" the last train leaving on the journey home from the fr end of a branch line ... the stink on the dmu was potent !]
[a few years ago a utube clip appeared with a freight diesel trundling up & down some sidings at a MPD, blowing up loads of "expired" / "surplus" dets ...]

:eek:

mum-tat found some in the back garden once (at the flat she and dad had before i came along - garden backed on to a railway line in s london.) she put them in a shopping bag and took them round the station (apparently dad was concerned that the whole lot would go off bang on the way)
 
It takes quite a bit of weight and impact to set them off.

I dropped one, many years ago ! and scared myself almost to needing new undercrackers.
Which is when I was learnt some info about their handling.
[how to fit them by hand etc]

Now wondering if they are still used for FOG signals ... ?
Q for davesgcr ?
 
We use to find chunks of the old school ceramic ones walking along the tracks of the disused line through our village, most were marked BR(W) but I think there was the odd GWR. I did keep a few of the larger pieces but suspect my Mum got rid of them at some point. From the shape of them I’m not sure how they worked on the rails. The ones they use now are much smaller and strap onto the rails.
 
Actually, I think what we used to think were detonators as kids (and a grown up must have told us this) were actually the ceramic pots from the telegraph wires, and a quick google image search has confirmed this. Never questioned this before!
 
Speaking of relics, was surprised to look down whilst stopped at Dalwhinnie recently and see an LMS sleeper chair still in use on the track opposite.
 
'a london inheritance' blog has something on the grand plans for london's railways after WW2, which included closing charing cross and cannon street stations, and putting chunks of south london's railways underground.


line 8 looks like an early incarnation of what became the victoria line
 
It takes quite a bit of weight and impact to set them off.

I dropped one, many years ago ! and scared myself almost to needing new undercrackers.
Which is when I was learnt some info about their handling.
[how to fit them by hand etc]

Now wondering if they are still used for FOG signals ... ?
Q for davesgcr ?

Less so , if not at all for fog signalling as most distant signals (bar fixed ones) , are colour light.

Still very much in use for protection of the line during engineering works (to mark out possession limits and work sites) , and of course for protection of failed trains and / or in emergency situations where appropriate. (despite GSMR and radio communications)
 
:eek:

mum-tat found some in the back garden once (at the flat she and dad had before i came along - garden backed on to a railway line in s london.) she put them in a shopping bag and took them round the station (apparently dad was concerned that the whole lot would go off bang on the way)

I hope someone on the railway was asked some searching questions regarding that "find"- right thing to do. (though I bet the station staff were a bit surprised , but in those days staff were multi-functional and could be expected to understand these things.)

In certain challenging areas , not unknown for kids to steal them from various places and locations.

We make a point in showing dets to school visits at the signal box (they are quite safe and not charged) , with assurances if they ever come across one to give it a wide berth and tell an appropriate person. Not to be trifled with.
 
Less so , if not at all for fog signalling as most distant signals (bar fixed ones) , are colour light.

Still very much in use for protection of the line during engineering works (to mark out possession limits and work sites) , and of course for protection of failed trains and / or in emergency situations where appropriate. (despite GSMR and radio communications)

Working on a narrow-gauge line, I think we "lost" dets out of the rule book before I qualified, apart from the PW dept. However, the year after that, I was on the "big" railway when the train I was on decided to get a failed ejector, and the poor loco gave up dragging the consist about halfway between Marston Green and B'ham Intl. The guard put dets down - what a bang from the closest one !
and the following train gave us a shove into international. A bit more shunting and a thunderbird came up from Coventry to take the train on. It must have set off almost as soon as the train I was on reported the failure.
I don't know about the other pax but I enjoyed the variation to my journey ! [and the overall delay wasn't that significant].
Just wish I had had a camera to record the events ...
 
Working on a narrow-gauge line, I think we "lost" dets out of the rule book before I qualified, apart from the PW dept. However, the year after that, I was on the "big" railway when the train I was on decided to get a failed ejector, and the poor loco gave up dragging the consist about halfway between Marston Green and B'ham Intl. The guard put dets down - what a bang from the closest one !
and the following train gave us a shove into international. A bit more shunting and a thunderbird came up from Coventry to take the train on. It must have set off almost as soon as the train I was on reported the failure.
I don't know about the other pax but I enjoyed the variation to my journey ! [and the overall delay wasn't that significant].
Just wish I had had a camera to record the events ...

One of my neighbours related how he enjoyed the slight delay to his journey home on Thameslink when his knackered train was assisted forward by the following train which exploded the 3 protecting dets on the approach.

Part of the enjoyment was that it was in the "new" Blackfriars station , with both great flashes and of course impressive sound effects. They obviously told the passengers etc what was going on lest someone call out the police etc.

I greatly regret not putting down dets in front of the very last BR train from Wimbledon to West Croydon (a wedged 2 car set with a driver who had swopped specially for the job) , alas the good idea to do so was only realised too late and making the arrangements would have meant a late start. So the moment passed ,as did the service. For the avoidance of doubt , I was 100% qualified to do so. So the dets went back to the office.
 
Ever had fun with those [dammed] track circuit clips ?

Something I've never had to use - all my train working has been on single lines with xing loops - but I know how & why to use them.
 
Ever had fun with those [dammed] track circuit clips ?

Something I've never had to use - all my train working has been on single lines with xing loops - but I know how & why to use them.

Once in anger , and yes , they did work and put a signal back.

Many times for training people out on sidings - with special commentary on what you do in 3d rail areas. Simple and effective (but you still have to apply secondary protection measures)
 

Only in Dowlais in 1947 - good idea but it blew out the ballast and distorted the track.

In a moment of desperation in the evil winter of 1981 we were reduced to burning cardboard boxes to clear packed ice. Not very succesfully I have to say.
 
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