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Martin Scorsese’s The Irishman to premiere at New York film festival

I want to see it but Scorsese moaning about people not watching at the cinema after doing the deal with Netflix... I mean fuck off what a stupid hypocrite.

But I actually agree. Will be crap on a laptop. I want to see it at the cinema but all the arty farty or independent places around here have stopped showing it, cant be bothered or are busy showing Frozen 2 three times a day.
He didn’t go to Netflix by choice. Hollywood won’t fund the type of movies he makes anymore, so it’s either Netflix or nothing,
 
BTW, I didn't rate Carlito's Way that much either. Couldn't stand that voiceover/ending (the opposite of shouty but too far the other way).
Sean Penn and Penelope Ann Miller were great though.
 
Just seen it. With all that talent on screen and directing it was, not surprisingly, very good. I'm a bit prim about artworks that lionise absolute cunts, but I managed to get past that, by and large. Having said that, whilst it replaces conservative films that offer a 2 dimensional viewof gangsters with a 3d version, it became just another version of conservative. It's also specifically conservative in respect of gender, in that in 3.5 hours no female character gets more than a couple of significant lines. But all that aside, what got very close to spoiling it for me was the de-aging technology they apparently used. Pesci seemed to look the same age through the various decades of the film (old). Pacino's younger self was the most convincing, but he looked over made up. De Niro looked ridiculous at any age except in his dotage. His face never looked young and his shoulders were hunched over. You get the impression that if Scorsese wasn't putting the band back together on this one, he'd have just got other actors in to play their younger selves.
 
de niro's body didn't seem to match his young age. when he was kicking the bloke that pushed his daughter, he looked like a 80 year throwing those timid kicks. weird.
 
watched the first hour+.

- about the beginning: my father, one of my aunts, and the wife of one of my uncles passed in places like that, so it's familiar. but the steadicam* while it looks good, is too hamhanded of a reference to goodfellas anymore
- i didn't recognize harvey keitel
- great little turn from the guy who plays whispers di tullio, and even more from ray romano. more of him in future please
- bo dietl, who plays the guy deniro meets in the sauna in chicago and who helps him blow up the cabs and who fills the watermelon with liquor, is a first-grade right-wing cunt in real life, and i don't think he was doing too much acting in the movie. his wiki entry scratches the surface
- i didn't need the fairy joke, however "characteristic of the times" it may have been
- the "hunt" sheeran meets in florida is e. howard hunt :bigeyes:
- the music over the aerial shot when sheeran returns to miami for the teamsers convention is the theme from the Jackie Gleason show, a major variety show, filmed in Miami Beach. irish types like me would recognize it because gleason was irish from brooklyn who made it very big and the parents and i watched it every sunday in the 60s because in an unspoken way we were supposed to

*fun fact 2: the steadicam was invented by a guy from around phila.

As soon as I saw the eyebrows I thought it had to be Joe Pesci's character from JFK and low and behold it was! David Ferrie - Wikipedia
 
I thought when he tried to do 'Irish' in The Departed (which wasn't a patch on Infernal Affairs) it felt very laboured. Unlike his effortless depiction of Italian American life.

Let's see though.

Infernal Affairs was far superior.

DeNiro's Jimmy the Gent was American Irish, so I'm not too worried about that angle. Other than Hoffa, the other key characters in this story are Italian/Italian American.

The Departed was pretty flawed given the strong source material they had to work with. Setting it in Boston was a mistake in my opinion. The accents, gee whizz, were bad for the most part, and I've yet to be convinced that the DiCaprio and Scorsese pairing has been at all succesful in terms of quality cinema.

Goodfella's was flash and brash and glossy, but it still had some grit and grime. Scorsese's films seemed to have lost that since then.

I have high hopes for this film, yet I remain cautious about getting too excited.

You gotcha dinner potatoes, then you gotcha dessert potatoes, then I got one at home with toothpaste on it, so I don't gotta brush.
 
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