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Loughborough Junction public space improvements - consultation begins

The easier it is for car-owning parents to send their kids to distant schools, by driving them there, the more of them will do it. Remove a little bit of that advantage from them, and maybe it's possible to moderate this vicious circle.
There you go again - this is stick before carrot.
 
WATCH THIS SPACE - it's going to be in the BBC news this evening I think. And the Fiasco is in the Standard. The MPs are also now starting to take an interest.
I saw part of the news clip on BBC1 London news.
Who was the quite well presented lady who took a side swipe at where LJAG diredctors live?
Not from here surely - looked far too normal.
 
I saw part of the news clip on BBC1 London news.
Who was the quite well presented lady who took a side swipe at where LJAG diredctors live?
Not from here surely - looked far too normal.
She's a Loughborough resident.... are you saying Loughborough residents are ABNORMAL.
 
And put siblings in the same school so you don't have parents schlepping all over the place taking children to different schools.

Lambeth has a sibling rule.

Apart from where a child is in a special school, I don't know any families with primary age kids at different schools.
 
There you go again - this is stick before carrot.
Yes. Because the evidence shows that the other way around doesn't work. But let's just ignore that, and continue to watch those in the least advantaged position gradually become even more so, and pander to the demands of those who rank their personal freedom as more important.
 
Yes. Because the evidence shows that the other way around doesn't work. But let's just ignore that, and continue to watch those in the least advantaged position gradually become even more so, and pander to the demands of those who rank their personal freedom as more important.
Hear hear personal freedom and human rights all the way
 

From the article:

"So a crunch day for London indeed, but also for anyone fearing unofficial war has been declared on those who dare depend on a motor vehicle, and that’s most of us."

There's nothing unofficial about the war. It's all openly declared if anyone cares to look. The difference now is the gloves have come off and the knuckle dusters are on.
 
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From the article:
"So a crunch day for London indeed, but also for anyone fearing unofficial war has been declared on those who dare depend on a motor vehicle, and that’s most of us."
There's nothing unofficial about the war. It's all openly declared if anyone cares to look. The difference now is the gloves have come off and the knuckle dusters are on.
That article could not have been written today (as it is).
 
From the article:

"So a crunch day for London indeed, but also for anyone fearing unofficial war has been declared on those who dare depend on a motor vehicle, and that’s most of us."

There's nothing unofficial about the war. It's all openly declared if anyone cares to look. The difference now is the gloves have come off and the knuckle dusters are on.

Have we really descended to the pathetic 'war on motorists' trope? Cars and the motor industry lobby have dominated town planning since the fifties. A minor swing in favour of non car road usage is not a war.

Unless your a motor journalist like the writer of that article. How this place has changed. Reclaim the streets?
 
Have we really descended to the pathetic 'war on motorists' trope? Cars and the motor industry lobby have dominated town planning since the fifties. A minor swing in favour of non car road usage is not a war.

Unless your a motor journalist like the writer of that article. How this place has changed. Reclaim the streets?

I don't call plans to abolish all through routes within a five mile perimeter a minor change. Especially when combined with other changes which reduce capacity at major junctions.
 
The region bounded by Denmark Hill, Herne Hill, Dulwich Road, Effra Road, Brixton Road and Camberwell New Road has a perimeter of 5 miles.
 
The region bounded by Denmark Hill, Herne Hill, Dulwich Road, Effra Road, Brixton Road and Camberwell New Road has a perimeter of 5 miles.
Surely a well intentioned mathematician would have said a RADIUS of 5 miles.
That is what I assumed. A perimeter of 5 miles is obscurantist IMHO.
 
Surely a well intentioned mathematician would have said a RADIUS of 5 miles.
That is what I assumed. A perimeter of 5 miles is obscurantist IMHO.

Perimeter is relevant because if you want to go in the 'wrong' direction you have a diversion of half the perimeter.
 
Lambeth has a sibling rule.

Apart from where a child is in a special school, I don't know any families with primary age kids at different schools.
Let me help you to understand. Issue is simple, several children in a family, unless multiple birth they are obviously different ages, as children age they move on to an school for older children. Result children are not at they same school.
 
Let me help you to understand. Issue is simple, several children in a family, unless multiple birth they are obviously different ages, as children age they move on to an school for older children. Result children are not at they same school.

Secondary school children travel independently. By foot or bus. Tube, train even.
 
Secondary school children travel independently. By foot or bus. Tube, train even.
That's where other pedestrians such as gangs are then involved, see you at the police station or worse... But let's not talk about that as it undermines the whole ethos of kettled area
 
So that email yesterday from the Deputy Mayor ..

"We agreed to extend the trial time from December to March next year, also officers are looking into alternate ways of dealing with this important issue. By extending the date there will be more time to do satisfactory consultation /engagement with the residents affected by this scheme"

It does say the trial, not the consultation period.

Does that basically mean that this 8 week review we've heard so much about is now in the bin already ?
(genuinely confused of flaxman rd)
 
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The bit on todays' BBC 1 London news about the road closures is here, starts at 11.40 minutes in
(with an interview with Clare Neely standing in Loughborough Rd talking about being able to hear children playing, whilst a heavy goods truck goes past behind her.)

BBC iPlayer - BBC London News - 05/11/2015
My sincere apologies for repeating (again) my all time favourite clip.
A 2007 visit to Enugu left me with a powerful appreciation of crap traffic schemes.
For me Lambeth have at least managed to produce that déjà vu feeling (again).
The opening seconds of the BBC film are reminiscent of a more authentic road experience now largely lost to us. And as critical1 points out the white vans in the BBC clip have truly earth moving dimensions:

 
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