It doesn't help that lorries are banned from most roads in London between 2100 and 0700. When you combine that with avoiding rush hours and the fact that HGV drivers can only drive for a limited time before they must take a break, you have a logistics nightmare.
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It doesn't help that lorries are banned from most roads in London between 2100 and 0700. When you combine that with avoiding rush hours and the fact that HGV drivers can only drive for a limited time before they must take a break, you have a logistics nightmare.
Well, that's self evidently BS. Just take a look at the tidal traffic going in and out of London during rush hours. Or traffic going through the Blackwall Tunnel at rush hour. Miles of traffic jams. According to your theory it should have evaporated.
bimble
floofy
I don't understand what on earth he;s saying either. He makes it sound like no matter how much or how little roadspace you have in a city the amount of traffic on any given road will be pretty much the same.
That really does sound like he's suggesting if you close a road the cars that used it yesterday will just 'evaporate' into thin air, leaving everything else unchanged.
That really does sound like he's suggesting if you close a road the cars that used it yesterday will just 'evaporate' into thin air, leaving everything else unchanged.
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teuchter
je suis teuchter
No it shouldn't.
According to the basic theory, if you halved or doubled the capacity of the Blackwall Tunnel, it would eventually settle back at a similar level of tailbacks. Of course, the Blackwall tunnel is probably a major pinch-point in the wider system, so it might be that if you increased the capacity enough, the tailbacks would decrease, but the pinchpoint location would then be transferred to somewhere else. And then you could increase the capacity there, and then somewhere else, and so on, and so on, until London looked like LA with 8 lane highways everywhere that are still congested.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
You could have saved yourself some embarassment by doing some rudimentary research which would have revealed that the Netherlands has some of the most congested motorways in Europe. In fact the country was recently rated the second worst in Europe. Luckily they have an excellent public transport network and give over generous roadspace to cycle lanes, so while their drivers face much the same delays as we do here, those who use other modes of transport get a much better deal.
Next question?
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
You lot are killing Loughborough Junction by going to the opposite extreme.
Los Angeles
Actual proposal for Brixton, 1960s.
Hooray! Look at all that extra road capacity!
Goodbye Loughborough Junction though.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I see there is now a "Friends of Loughborough Junction" group (affiliated to LJ Road Madness). Got 2 nice laminated leaflets through the letterbox just now.
This could create a constitutional crisis. Friends groups are technically preferred consultees by the council n'est-ce pas?
I promise I am absolutely not involved in this group - but I could see what was coming. I was not the only LJAG member to resign the whip over this issue.
Going out for the evening. Maybe later or tomorrow I will post up the leaflet - unless someone kindly points out it has been done already.
This could create a constitutional crisis. Friends groups are technically preferred consultees by the council n'est-ce pas?
I promise I am absolutely not involved in this group - but I could see what was coming. I was not the only LJAG member to resign the whip over this issue.
Going out for the evening. Maybe later or tomorrow I will post up the leaflet - unless someone kindly points out it has been done already.
bimble
floofy
teuchter made me find this. It's an absolute gem. A film from 1945 explaining the Abercrombie Plan for redesigning London. If you have no patience, the road bit is at 19.30.
The Proud City - YouTube"
The Proud City - YouTube"
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Yes - thank you for reminding me.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I wanted to comment on this last night. The production values of these old documentaries are impressive for their time. This one had music by William Alwyn - a prolific classical composer who did a lot of British film scores in the 1940s and 50s.
"Lady Godiva Rides Again" starring Diana Doors, Sid James and Stanley Holloway was one of his - must try YouTube for that one.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Posting this here because I know some of my fellow Junctionistas are very horticultural.
I have a triffid like plant in my back yard which flowers at this time of the year, which seems odd as most pollinating insects must be dead or hibernating.
Actually these flowers are attractive to bees and wasps. Yesterday there was a singe solitary wasp flying around, but despite taking loads of photos I have failed to capture the vespal darling.
The leaves of this plant are massive and seem immune to such things as composting down unfortunately. The height to the top of the "blooms" is 3-4 feet It has a very malevolent aspect which may deter burglars.
Can anyone identify the plant?
I have a triffid like plant in my back yard which flowers at this time of the year, which seems odd as most pollinating insects must be dead or hibernating.
Actually these flowers are attractive to bees and wasps. Yesterday there was a singe solitary wasp flying around, but despite taking loads of photos I have failed to capture the vespal darling.
The leaves of this plant are massive and seem immune to such things as composting down unfortunately. The height to the top of the "blooms" is 3-4 feet It has a very malevolent aspect which may deter burglars.
Can anyone identify the plant?
ChrisSouth
Well-Known Member
Anything with waxy leaves such as this, and hellebores are nigh impossible to compost. The best way to do it is to break up into little tiny leaf pieces.
prunus
Tick tock.
And you might as well make friends with it
- they're freely self-seeding and damn difficult to kill, will grow back from the smallest fragment of their very friable roots. It will compost if you shred it, with a lawnmower for instance.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Shares that characteristic with the dreaded knotweed then. Why are these Japanese plants so hardy. Is it to do with rocky terrain or something?And you might as well make friends with it
It will compost if you shred it, with a lawnmower for instance.
My back yard has quite poor quality soil, maybe a legacy of the railway building, industrial use of railway arches and communal toilets etc that woiuld have been there from the 1860s.
Don't have a lawn. Maybe I could put an industrial shredder on my wish list at Lidl. To go with the generator they regularly sell for the end times.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
That's because it affects house prices.
The Victorians brought it over to keep railway embankments in place, you'll find it in places along most lines. There's tonnes of it down Milkwood Road and along platform 1 Herne Hill station. It only spreads by roots though, it doesn't self seed as they only brought one sex over. Apparently.
Harbourite
Eggnog
I think it's about time that our very own Co-op staff got some chatter. I'm terrible with names but I love the security guard, the dead pan lady with the long dark hair who has me in creases every time she serves me, the lovely northern lady and the red headed gent, among others.
The notice board reveals just how much the area has changed with requests for more organic produce, coffee beans, quinoa, rocket and Parmesan etc etc.
The notice board reveals just how much the area has changed with requests for more organic produce, coffee beans, quinoa, rocket and Parmesan etc etc.
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