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Spoke earlier to a TEFL colleague of mine.
B2 is the level expected of foreign undergrads at the end of their pre-sessional course.

UK, Germany and Spain only ask for B1 for citizenship
 
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I've started using Glossika. Seems like a pretty good way to improve speaking and listening from the various reviews I've seen. I'm using the GRS method. There are loads of different languages to choose from too and it's pretty cheap in comparison to other language learning products out there. It's more of a supplement to other materials, but with the GRS method, it's only like 15 mins a day anyway.
http://www.glossika.com/
http://www.mezzoguild.com/glossika-review/
 
Darn ...

I have three people who want to do French - English language exchange who saw me on francaisfacile.com - one young person from Ivory coast, one from Romania and one from Brittany both nearer my age .. I can't cope with three - clearly the Breton is the more likely to have things to discuss ... how to let the others down gently ...
 
I still hold out no hope that I will be able to manage smalltalk in French any more than in English ...
 
<snip> one from Brittany both nearer my age .. I can't cope with three - clearly the Breton is the more likely to have things to discuss ... how to let the others down gently ...
"Fiches-moi la paix, connard(e), t'es tres sympa mais je desire converser avec un adult, pas un mome."? ;)
I still hold out no hope that I will be able to manage smalltalk in French any more than in English ...
Okay then, forget small talk. Ask the one from Brittany about the place, about local politics in their area, about that recent strike which affected transmanche traffic for a couple of days, about the Tour De France, or whatever interests you, or them.
 
The Breton woman actually seems to want an English teacher ...

The cocky Romanian guy seems more of a safe bet quite frankly (corrected my grammar !) - not sure what's in it for him as he speaks English and French ...
I've had a lot of experience with contacts from young Cote d' Ivoirians - though they're usually female ...

I don't think I actually put my name down on the site for language exchange, I simply did the assessment test yesterday and immediately got contacted ..
 
The Romanian guy wants to Skype tonight. :hmm:
He says all English people are eccentric and lack a sense of humour. :hmm:
Thankfully he has a facebook page so I can check his politics ... - people can easily be blocked...

I just gave a text-based TEFL lesson to the French woman - though both grammar issues are things that confuse me in French ...
(I failed my English O Level and only got a B the second time :D )
 
Oh dear.
I'm going to just have to block the Romanian guy.
He won't take no for an answer.
He's all over the Internet. He's the sort of overly assertive man I long ago learned to avoid...

The French woman seems nice, but it's all in text at the moment.
 
<snip>The cocky Romanian guy seems more of a safe bet quite frankly (corrected my grammar !) - not sure what's in it for him as he speaks English and French <snip>
Practice - you need to keep it current or you tend to lose it again.
 
I think he's trying to practice his English and get more translation work outside Romania - as would I if I lived over 300 miles from the sea.

Darn, there's no blocking in francaisfacile ....
Hopefully he'll go away if I don't connect via skype.
He sort of said that his offer is open until midnight...

Always the same problem - I've always been able to get lots of language exchange locally, but I have nothing to discuss with 18 year old students either ..
 
Starting up a study group for foreigners who live in the area. Finding it hard at the moment with people at different levels, everyone having slightly different ideas, different schedules etc. Hopefully it works out though as it gives me another social circle as well as more motivation to learn Chinese
 
"Good evening Sir,
I am helping my girlfriend to find a job in Fashion in London.
Do you have any contacts or advice?
Thank you very much for your help.
"

I must be the least likely person to have any advice in that area. :D
 
Just acquired a second 50-something French speaker - though I don't know how much small talk and TEFL I will be able to sustain .. the first one is petering out a bit ...

Meanwhile I've caved in and signed up for a walk around Bristol harbour and a café stop with the Bristol French language Meetup group next Saturday - at least one of them is a native speaker ...

In the past the events were always held up in the posh part of town...

I might at least eventually meet someone or other to Skype with ...
 
My new French friend sent me a link to a gardening programme and as per usual with http://pluzz.francetv.fr

"Pour des raisons de droits concédés à France Télévisions, cette vidéo n'est pas disponible depuis votre position géographique."

So I did a bit of googling and I'm trying a VPN facility "Hotspot Shield" - £3 for a month's subscription and cheaper if you buy multiple months ... ... so I appear to be located in France - it seems OK so far ...
 
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Two and half weeks in to a four week intensive Czech course. I've lived here for two and a half years, and had lessons irregularly over the past nine months, but even the basics are still doing my head in.
 
Well the French walk around Bristol harbour was pleasant enough, and I fell in with the older part of the group, but as per usual we were running out of topics of common interest ..
There were a couple of native speakers but they were instantly ensnared ..
It confirmed the gaps in my conversational ability ..

My online thing seems to have dried up too - as I said to people today, I need to speak and absorb whole phrases into my subconsious .. filling the holes in my grammar can come later ...

I wonder if my old French exchange partner wants to practice his English in exchange for French ...- I found this photo from 1975 .. it was a friendship that never took off back then for various reasons - his life has taken an interesting turn since then.

I may go and comment on his Facebook page. :)
 
I was contacted by a more promising language exchange person today - male, 54, secondary maths teacher hoping to work in English schools - also mostly into spoken language - unlike the previous contacts, so I made sure my Skype is up to scratch - though françaisfacile has some sort of facility of its own - not sure how that works yet ...
 
Blinking heck ...

The school teacher seems to have done a runner ...

Then a very nice woman from Bordeaux messaged me. I told her I wanted to talk on the mic rather than correct each other's written language ...
She pleaded with me to be a penfriend because her American friend only wanted to speak ..
Very ironically her passion is literature !
I had to explain to her that I left school at 16 having failed English language and having written nothing at all on my English lit paper - such was my total lack of interest in the subject ...

Mind you, the English book she mentioned was "A Year in Provence" - which I have always assumed is not exactly a serious work ...

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I now have a Belgian actually wanting to chat :hmm:
 
Bernard, the Belgian ex-copper seems like a nice chap, but it's rather unbalanced .. all in text so far with him correcting my written French - even after I've cheated a bit to get the vocab - I would get away with a lot of my mistakes if we were speaking it .. it's so painful inputting accents I mess up the subjunctive .. and that odd thing they do with the conditional that makes "apparently" unnecessary ... I hear it every day on the news ...

So bloody pissed off with myself for not simply switching French radio decades ago - as is my wont I would have eventually developed some fluency just speaking to myself - in my head or sometimes out loud - but that's the story of my life ...
I wish my original correspondent would simply allow me to help her with her spoken English - even if I ended up doing the most talking (in French) ...

The maths teacher has at least added me to his contacts ...

French is a brilliant language .. speaking it properly is like reciting poetry or making a speech - I love to listen to it, but fear I've left it far too long. It was possibly my best and favourite subject at school ...
 
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Now I have Skype open, every day I get a new person from the Cote D'Ivoire - for some reason they eventually admit it - sometimes using very unlikely fictional locations in France.
Today's used a photo which I was able to trace to a Google+ account ...
I don't even know how you find a random person in Skype - it no longer offers that facility...
 
Well that was interesting.

A new French speaker - raised south of the Loire ... somewhat ironically now living near Nantes in Brittany because her mother was from there, but has suddenly taken to West Wales and is desperate to learn English so she can move there.
Inspired by Haverfordwest :hmm:

Feels a connection to things Druidic ....

Very matter of fact - straight on the mic.
She said my French was good :)
Next time it will be in English and we'll alternate like that.
 
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I feel rather sad for an Iranian who contacted me - Persian is sadly way down my list and it must be really difficult to find exchange speakers ...

And today's "comedy" Côte D'Ivoirienne ....
She insisted on using her webcam - by which means she displayed a stolen photo of someone clearly not her ...
 
Well that didn't last long.
Both my recent correspondents became problematic - I was starting to have to bite my lip ...
 
Well that didn't last long.
Both my recent correspondents became problematic - I was starting to have to bite my lip ...
Plenty more francophones out there, better luck next time. Problematic? You missed a chance to practice your insults, swear words, and variations on "leave me the hell alone".
 
I am starting to learn Portuguese. Any tips? I´ve been to Portugal a few times n brushed up on the basics haha. It mainly seems like Spanish with bells on, so far. Future subjective, weird hyphens with objects, more accents and weird diphthongs than spanish. My french has proved useful though, especially with the pronunciation, I think. Obviously, speaking good Spanish (C1ish) has been the most helpful thing!

I´m going to both Germany and France soon though, so maybe time to prioritise the German, especially!! Back to Michel Thomas and his crazy accent, maybe.... I´ve found him really good.
 
Not been on here for a while, so here's a little update...

The study group kind of went down hill a little bit. First couple of meet ups had about 10 of us, then I missed one because of work (apparently only 4 turned up), then it was hard to get anyone together. Now there are 3 of us (plus 1 Chinese person to help us) meeting weekly, which isn't what I really wanted but think it's working for me this way (fitting in with other commitments). It's quite good just to relax in a cafe bar with a beer and have an informal lesson with people in the same situation as me. We also have a WeChat group, where we share stuff through the week (although this has 13 people, with only the 4 of us talking on it...). After the summer, I don't think I'll be able to fit it in unless we move it to a Sunday afternoon. See what happens.

I'm coming to the end go the first part of the Glossika fluency course. (done over 800 out of 1000 sentences). It's pretty boring now and I can't wait to finish it. Not sure when I'll start the next part tbh. But I do feel it is quite helpful and will come back to it eventually.

I've started a new book (not that I've used many properly before). It's Short Term Spoken Chinese. I started doing it on my own using a pdf and audio from a torrent but ended u buying the physical version so I'm not looking at my computer too much and it's easier to flick through pages when looking back at vocab too. I did have a problem doing exercises on my own as I had no answers to refer to and sometimes got stuck. So Ive started using my online tutor again to make sure I go through them properly. Its a massive help and something I really need.

This week, I also started learning my first Chinese song. I got the lyrics, used google translate for rough translation and pinyin. Used the pinyin to sing a little, then went through the whole song to see what I didn't understand. Anything I didn't understand, I made sure I understood it and made my own sentences using it. After that, just went back to singing, sometimes with pinyin, sometimes with characters for help. Did a little review of what I didn't understand before and now I can sing it pretty well, with only using characters to help me. Pretty good feeling doing something like this for the first time. :)

Also, making sure I watch bits of Chinese TV with only Chinese subtitles. Anything too long and I get bored, so Ive been watching some web based cartoon about sex and zombies that is about 10 mins per episode and the Chinese dub of Pokemon (helps that I liked this as a kid so understand the background to keep me interested)

Found a pretty good App (Decipher) that has short Chinese news stories, sorted by HSK levels and shows the meaning and pinyin of characters when you touch them. Really good little tool to use when you have a spare 5 mins!

From September, my son will be going to kindergarten on mornings, so it gives me a chance to plan my time a bit better and study without the distractions as I don't usually work weekday mornings. My study plan is something like this...
Monday morning - online lesson reviewing textbook
Tuesday morning - self study textbook - dialogue, vocab and grammar
Wednesday morning - online lesson reviewing textbook
Thursday afternoon (long work break in other part of town) -self study textbook - writing
Friday morning - self study textbook - dialogue, vocab and grammar
Sunday afternoon (long work break in other part of town) -self study textbook - writing

Then Mon, Weds, Thurs, Sat, Sun I'll be travelling to other parts of the city on the bus, so I can listen to ChinesePod and review flashcards. Tues and Fri need to make sure I find time to review flashcards at home in the morning.
 
Also, making sure I watch bits of Chinese TV with only Chinese subtitles. Anything too long and I get bored, so Ive been watching some web based cartoon about sex and zombies that is about 10 mins per episode

Do you have a link for this or any other cartoons you recommend? I am trying to make more than a half-arsed attempt at learning now but my vocabularly is pretty poor and my listening is even worse. It's a bit frustrating because I am often in a Chinese speaking environment at work but don't know enough to make any use of it.
 
Do you have a link for this or any other cartoons you recommend? I am trying to make more than a half-arsed attempt at learning now but my vocabularly is pretty poor and my listening is even worse. It's a bit frustrating because I am often in a Chinese speaking environment at work but don't know enough to make any use of it.
I actually don't understand a lot in these cartoons vocab wise. I choose to watch cartoons partly because you can generally understand more because they are so visual.

This is the one I mentioned (might not be available outside of China)
http://www.youku.com/show_page/id_z1d75270284a311e3a705.html

Also, some of the Japanese dubbed stuff is good as it's short and fairly simple these.
http://www.soku.com/search_video/q_哆啦a梦?f=1&kb=04114010kv41000__duolaameng&_rp=1439813495184euq3Gr
http://www.soku.com/search_video/q_蜡笔小新?f=1&kb=04114010kv41000__labixiaoxin&_rp=1439813495184euq3Gr
 
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