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Lake of Stars 2014 - Malawi

soulfulofsoul

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So I'm going to this.
http://www.lakeofstars.org/

Going on my own (bit scary but I'll survive). Going to volunteer (makes the going on my own thing OK, and makes the whole thing better).

I can't wait, looks amazing! Anyone been before, or going this year?
 
Have been wanting to go for a long time... Lucky you!!

Please come back and tell us how amazing it was
 
Yes, I can't get over how perfect it seems. I will let you know how it goes.

Reckon it'll be massive in a few years. Don't mean this in a "I went before it sold out" way, but I imagine it's going to grow quickly so am glad to be going now.
 
the ticket price for this is a third of the average malawian's annual wages. does that make it the most elitist festival on the planet, i wonder?
 
the ticket price for this is a third of the average malawian's annual wages. does that make it the most elitist festival on the planet, i wonder?
So is Glastonbury presumably. The answer to your question depends on other things as well as the ticket price.
 
the ticket price for this is a third of the average malawian's annual wages. does that make it the most elitist festival on the planet, i wonder?
I did (and still do a tiny bit) wonder whether it is genuine, and really interested in helping locals. I believe it is, but won't know until I go.

One of the main benefits is to bring money (especially from oversea) in to the local economy. They wouldn't get many from o/s without a few biggish acts and decent sound which wouldnt be possible without relatively expensive tickets.

Also the quality of the event, sound, lighting, etc is professional and this gives local artists an opportunity to experience that. I heard a local musician talking about how bad the studios in Malawi are and how good it was to get a recording which sounded half decent.

LOS also took some Malawian artists to perform at the Commonwealth Games in Scotland and does different international exchanges (both ways).

My point is that to do something like this in a professional way creates opportunities that you wouldn't be able to if you only charged what the average local can afford.

I heard a negative story which was that some local artists had an argument about their performance fee and refused it. They then put on a smaller party nearby as a fuck you.
This raised some doubts for me but most locals seem to be into it.

Locals pay 1/3 of the international price btw which is a pretty hefty discount.

Still, it is sad to think that the vast majority couldn't dream of going, while other people are booking flights from australia to come check it out.

Must suck to see a wave of tourists come through and enjoy themselves, especially if the festival is the sort of thing you'd enjoy.

I could write pages on this topic but I won't.
 
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So is Glastonbury presumably. The answer to your question depends on other things as well as the ticket price.

Good point, Glastonbury Festival in Somerset, UK is most likely out of the price range of the vast majority of Malawians. Fortunately, it's in the UK, so there are unlikely to be many Malawians with their noses pressed up against the fences, grateful for the trickledown effect (which, incidentally, has been conclusively proven to not be a real thing outside the brains of libertarians).

Which music festival in the world do you think is the most inaccessible economically to the people who live in the country in which it is held?
 
do you want to do the maths or shall i?
No it doesn't 'add up' but I think they have good reasons (I mentioned a couple above) about why they need to make some decent money from tickets to make it professional and actually contribute something to Malawi.

No one has forced them to have a local price, I think it's a nice gesture. Its definitely more than something like a 10% token gesture I might expect if I was cynical.

One of the biggest aims that they go on about is to bring tourists in and bring money in to the Malawian economy. And if it was going to be a Malawian festival for Malawians I wouldn't think that people from the UK should be running it. Suggesting that it should be affordable to locals would make it a completely different festival to what it is. I don't think it would be a smart move at all.
 
1. life's too short. if you're a grown-up and you don't understand the nature of international capitalism by now, especially seeing as urban is one of the best places on the internet to learn about it, you've decided you don't care. i'm not your fucking butler, wooster.
2. aw diddums, did someone judge you? how awful for you.

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i'm so very very sorry...
 
Good point, Glastonbury Festival in Somerset, UK is most likely out of the price range of the vast majority of Malawians. Fortunately, it's in the UK, so there are unlikely to be many Malawians with their noses pressed up against the fences, grateful for the trickledown effect (which, incidentally, has been conclusively proven to not be a real thing outside the brains of libertarians).

Which music festival in the world do you think is the most inaccessible economically to the people who live in the country in which it is held?

By that logic there shouldn't be an airport in Malawi as it's inaccessible economically to the average Malawian ... I've been there (a while ago admittedly) and it is extremely poor. Fair play to anyone putting on an even there though as I'm sure it will bring a bit of money into town and given that there is very little corporate/ capitalist tourist infrastructure the local people almost certainly will benefit.
 
1. life's too short. if you're a grown-up and you don't understand the nature of international capitalism by now, especially seeing as urban is one of the best places on the internet to learn about it, you've decided you don't care. i'm not your fucking butler, wooster.
2. aw diddums, did someone judge you? how awful for you.

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i'm so very very sorry...
It's not about judging really, more that if you have an argument then please make it.

I didn't realise this was obviously about capitalism since it's on urban.

I don't believe that capitalism is wrong in every way all the time. The people of Malawi want money to come in to their economy. Whether you or the rest of urban thinks the capitalist system is fucked is irrelevant.

Like James says they are extremely poor and if this benefits them economically, is culturally sensitive and is something they themselves want- why not.

Do you really think in their situation you'd be rejecting capitalism on principal?

It's
a) up to the local people
b) all about how it's done

It seems to be done well to me and I will fully make my mind up when I get there.

You seem lovely btw, shame you won't be there :p
 
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