Labour leadership

[KeeperofDragons]

And this I love. It's almost like it's all a game....

Jeremy Corbyn appoints a vegan to deal with Britain's farmers

FFS it doesn't matter if she eats meat or not as long as she can do the job. Never mind scraping the barrel they've gone beyond that & out the other side

 

[Fez909]

Mechanically recovered barrel meat

 

[kebabking]

In Corbyn or his shadow cabinet?, Corbyn has a huge mandate to change the party which was remodelled and hollowed out in the last twenty years: apparatchiks, blairites, parachutists, time servers, and even much of the soft left are not going to like it.

perhaps the concern written across the faces around the table is that the electorate won't like it either...

Corbyn got 250,000 votes to be leader of the Labour Party. unless he can get between 11 and 12 million votes at the GE in 2020, he'll not change anything outside of the Labour Party, and the Tories will have been in power for 15 years.

the tories have been here before - they elected 3 leaders on the trot who appealled to their activist base, but who turned the electorate off like a light. Corbyn might do that, he might not - i can't possibly know, and if i did i wouldn't be fucking about on the internet - but it seems obvious what those around his table think.

 

[Brainaddict]

Beginning on Jereday, the First of Corbember, Year 0.

The Era of Our Corbyn (E.C)

 

[treelover]

Corbyn at the Battle of Britain service, top shirt button undone, tie loose, not trivial in these circumstances, rags will be looking for Michael Foot moments

 

[Fez909]

Corbyn at the Battle of Britain service, top shirt button undone, tie loose, not trivial in these circumstances, rags will be looking for Michael Foot moments

wtf are you posting this shit for? You're worse than them as you claim to oppose such thinking.

 

[DotCommunist]

oh noes an unkempt tie

 

[treelover]

I don't care about his tie, etc, I do care how the media will use it.

 

[killer b]

The Michael foot moment is a myth. Who gives a fuck? Corbyn clearly doesn't. Good on him.

 

[gimesumtruf]

Edit:- wrong thread,sorry.

 

[Santino]

but it seems obvious what those around his table think.

You mean geniuses behind the 2010 and 2015 electoral campaigns?

 

[YouSir]

I don't care about his tie, etc, I do care how the media will use it.

He could be immaculately turned out 24/7, he could shave, primp, preen and wax - they'd still slag him off. No one can do anything about it except for point out again and again how trivial and irrelevant it is. A point most people agree with. Harping on about it like a Daily Mail women's section editor just makes it seem like you do think it matters.

 

[killer b]

He clearly said throughout the campaign - and more clearly since - 'fuck you, we aren't going to do it like this anymore'. He couldn't have been much more unequivocal.

All treelover has said since has been 'oh no! He's not doing it like that anymore!'. No fucking shit.

 

[kebabking]

You mean geniuses behind the 2010 and 2015 electoral campaigns?

well, there is that - but on the flip-side they do know what a failing election campaign, not to mention umpteen million votes they didn't get, looks like.

Corbyn might well do the business - he's engaging, he gives nuanced, involved answers rather than idiot soundbites, he's not photoshop politician and he has the ingegrity that saying the same, unpopular, thing for 30 years gives anyone. but he might also lead the Labour party into a dead end of internal squabbles and ridicule. we shall see...

 

[ViolentPanda]

Fortunately, the shadow chancellor of the exchequer realises he isn't cool enough to pull that look off.

Wonder if John McD has still got the Harrington he used to wear at the GLC?

 

[Santino]

well, there is that - but on the flip-side they do know what a failing election campaign, not to mention umpteen million votes they didn't get, looks like.

Corbyn might well do the business - he's engaging, he gives nuanced, involved answers rather than idiot soundbites, he's not photoshop politician and he has the ingegrity that saying the same, unpopular, thing for 30 years gives anyone. but he might also lead the Labour party into a dead end of internal squabbles and ridicule. we shall see...

Another way of looking at it is, if you had to design a lefty-liberal version of B. Johnson or Farage - in the sense of an apparently unconventional media 'personality' whose reputation is undamaged by media slings and arrows - then Corbyn is something you might come up with.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

He clearly said throughout the campaign - and more clearly since - 'fuck you, we aren't going to do it like this anymore'. He couldn't have been much more unequivocal.

He can't do anything else can he. There's no way he can avoid giving the press anything they can jump on, he just has to deal with it instead of letting the fear of it overwhelm him like Miliband did.

 

[treelover]

He clearly said throughout the campaign - and more clearly since - 'fuck you, we aren't going to do it like this anymore'. He couldn't have been much more unequivocal.

All treelover has said since has been 'oh no! He's not doing it like that anymore!'. No fucking shit.

If you were around in the Foot years, this 'stuff' does have an impact/resonance, JC should do the basics, the big stuff he can change as much as he likes.

 

[belboid]

If you were around in the Foot years, this 'stuff' does have an impact/resonance, JC should do the basics, the big stuff he can change as much as he likes.

these aren't the foot years. And your second sentence makes no sense

 

[Sprocket.]

The Westminster machine has been moaning for years that people have become disenfranchised and isolated from politics and in a few months Corbyn has brought more interest and passion about being involved than any 'Big Community' bollocks ever could.
This too is something the Tories do not like.

 

[treelover]

these aren't the foot years. And your second sentence makes no sense

I am saying, why be a hostage to fortune, he can compromise, he has already said he would wear a red poppy, instead of a white one, it doesn't matter to you or me, but it matters to many voters.

 

[Sprocket.]

The media too will focus today on how the Battle of Britain and those who served and died were fighting for our freedom.
As long as that freedom didn't involve wearing a tie with the shirt top button undone that is.

 

[Teaboy]

If you were around in the Foot years, this 'stuff' does have an impact/resonance, JC should do the basics, the big stuff he can change as much as he likes.

I think a lot has changed since then. I work in construction meeting architects and engineers, no one I meet wears a tie, in fact no one even wears a suit unless its some hipster nonsense. Its also rare to refer to anyone using anything other then their first name even if you've never met them.

Formality is not what it was, sure some people won't like it and the press will use it (like they will use everything regardless) but I'm not sure you can compare eras, Foot was a very very long time ago.

 

[belboid]

I am saying, why be a hostage to fortune, he can compromise, he has already said he would wear a red poppy, instead of a white one, it doesn't matter to you or me, but it matters to many voters.

he has compromised. Nothing will be good enough for the tory press, so fuck pandering to them. you go down that route, you're fucked already. So well done on him for not doing

 

[laptop]

LOL still manages to work it into telling everyone else who they should back. With friends like those eh...

More to the point is the segue into setting out what Corbyn MUST do to be deserving of this support.

Total boilerplate. Would work the same substituting the name of any other candidate.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Watson in particular looks like he knows C-byns gonna hustle him out of his pocket money. Slapped arse of a visage there

I thought Watso was doing an Alexei Sayle impersonation, TBF, what with the tight suit and skinny tie.

 

[maomao]

He had a new whistle on yesterday anyway. What the fuck more do they want?

 

[treelover]

I think a lot has changed since then. I work in construction meeting architects and engineers, no one I meet wears a tie, in fact no one even wears a suit unless its some hipster nonsense. Its also rare to refer to anyone using anything other then their first name even if you've never met them.

Formality is not what it was, sure some people won't like it and the press will use it (like they will use everything regardless) but I'm not sure you can compare eras, Foot was a very very long time ago.

Ok, we will see how this pans out, standing down on this one.

 

[Sprocket.]

I thought Watso was doing an Alexei Sayle impersonation, TBF, what with the tight suit and skinny tie.

Hello Tom, got a new voter!

 

[Artaxerxes]

Corbyn at the Battle of Britain service, top shirt button undone, tie loose, not trivial in these circumstances, rags will be looking for Michael Foot moments

Fuck how his tie and top button look #endmaleoppression