Labour leadership

[redcogs]

a week is a long time in politics

 

[andysays]

Stella Creasy manages to be vaguely amusing in her campaign to lose the Deputy Leadership - http://www.stellacreasy.org.uk/unlu...-lessons-i-have-learned-with-kitten-pictures/

No mention of bringing back Clause IV

 

[DotCommunist]

only another fortnight to go

it feels like eternity

 

[Sue]

only another fortnight to go

'Only'..?

 

[DotCommunist]

still time for an incriminating letter from Putin to Corbyn to be splashed in the mail

 

[youngian]

The Zinoviev Email

 

[teqniq]

Jeremy Corbyn: Labour membership will determine policy, not me

Policy will be made by Labour members and not the leader, shadow cabinet, or parliamentary party, Jeremy Corbyn has said in a debate with his three leadership rivals organised by the Guardian. The frontrunner has previously made clear that his policy proposals are only suggestions that would have to be agreed by colleagues, but this is his clearest indication yet that the role of MPs and the shadow cabinet would be diminished.

“I don’t think we can go on having policy made by the leader, shadow cabinet, or parliamentary Labour party. It’s got to go much wider. Party members need to be more enfranchised. Whoever is elected will have a mandate from a large membership.”

Getting the Labour party members to agree policy is one way in which Corbyn could get around the difficult problem of his lack of support in the parliamentary party, in which he has the support of just 20 MPs....

 

[killer b]

Getting the Labour party members to agree policy is one way in which Corbyn could get around the difficult problem of his lack of support in the parliamentary party, in which he has the support of just 20 MPs....

this isn't true. I wonder why the guardian would want to spread such disinformation?

 

[brogdale]

this isn't true. I wonder why the guardian would want to spread such disinformation?

Is it fewer than that?

 

[brogdale]

Selective and (slightly) tenuous as some of the comparisons might be, this blog post is another quite interesting addition to the changed political 'centre of gravity' discourse.

http://www.leftfutures.org/2015/08/extreme-back-to-the-80s-how-corbynomics-compares-with-the-sdp-manifesto/

 

[DotCommunist]

When is Michael White due to address the labour electorate on the subject of their foolishness? I'd have thought he'd called a special assembly by now.

 

[brogdale]

When is Michael White due to address the labour electorate on the subject of their foolishness? I'd have thought he'd called a special assembly by now.

Is he not Sir Michael or a Lord yet?

 

[andysays]

Is it fewer than that?

I think I've seen that number bandied around before, but not sure how it's been arrived at (maybe the number who nominated him, minus the number who subsequently said they wished they hadn't?)

Anyway, the number of MPs who support him ATM is not especially important, since they don't get any more of a vote than the rest of the electorate. What will matter more is the number who would be prepared to work with him as leader of the party should he be elected, and I suspect that's rather more than 20.

Guardian shit stirring, for a change.

 

[brogdale]

I think I've seen that number bandied around before, but not sure how it's been arrived at (maybe the number who nominated him, minus the number who subsequently said they wished they hadn't?)

Anyway, the number of MPs who support him ATM is not especially important, since they don't get any more of a vote than the rest of the electorate. What will matter more is the number who would be prepared to work with him as leader of the party should he be elected, and I suspect that's rather more than 20.

Guardian shit stirring, for a change.

Gonna be such fun watching the careerist, neo-lab fuckers squirming with rictus grin to persuade us that they agree with Jeremy.

 

[andysays]

Gonna be such fun watching the careerist, neo-lab fuckers squirming with rictus grin to persuade us that they agree with Jeremy.

To some extent, we may see the careerists disentangling themselves from the out-and-out neo-Lab fuckers as they see which way the wind is blowing. Interesting to see how it all unfolds, certainly

 

[redcogs]

Hilary Benn shadow Chancellor of the exchequer?

 

[emanymton]

Stella Creasy manages to be vaguely amusing in her campaign to lose the Deputy Leadership - http://www.stellacreasy.org.uk/unlu...-lessons-i-have-learned-with-kitten-pictures/

I now wish I'd signed up, so I could vote for her!

 

[killer b]

Hilary Benn shadow Chancellor of the exchequer?

why?

 

[Pickman's model]

Hilary Benn shadow Chancellor of the exchequer?

would prefer nigel benn

 

[youngian]

Absolutely, he could just punch Osborne every week.

 

[redcogs]

Ed Balls then.

why?

To stimulate discussion. Looking at his wiki Benns only suited to foreign office. Chancellors job important, can't think of an obvious candidate. Maybe Jez has already approached a few.

 

[redcogs]

Hmmm - that worked then.

 

[J Ed]

Hilary Benn is awful. Through and through Blairite, he came to speak to a Labour Students meeting I went to at university and his eyes positively lit up when talking about shrinking the state and how in his constituency libraries were being privatised and run by volunteers.

 

[redcogs]

OK Hilary is out then. Jez will have to place an advert in the Private Eye:

'Wanted Chancellor of the Exchequer (shadow), salary negotiable, prospects medium to good, benefits include tied cottage in smart residential area and new red box'..

 

[belboid]

Richard Burgon is the name I have seen most frequently attached to Shadow Chancellor

 

[Pickman's model]

Richard Burgon is the name I have seen most frequently attached to Shadow Chancellor

so hilary benn won't be the richard burgon shadow chancellor.

 

[gosub]

Jeremy Corbyn: Labour membership will determine policy, not me

Yay! More Natalie Bennettesque carcrash interviews. Most of the problems she had was defending ill thought out policy her party members have voted through

 

[redcogs]

I thought Natalie made a good fist of her leadership job during the gen election. Fuck the media characterization of her being useless, she wasn't.

 

[gosub]

http://labourlist.org/2015/08/labour-agree-to-give-break-down-of-the-leadership-results/

If it ends up a close race that will be a disaster, room for loads of bickering over the disallowed votes...so I'd guess they reckon it'll be over by the first round. Mind you the General election exit poll came as a shock to them.

 

[Zabo]

John McDonnell for Shadow Home Secretary. Lots of fist fights with May.