Labour has a homophobia and transphobia problem
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Starry Wisdom
black people mostly.
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Starry Wisdom
sounds like you mean 'if they were rich she'd keep quiet and take their money' which is a very different thing.That’s classism not racism. If they were rich she’d have no problem about the colour of their skin. It forms part of a structurally racist society, but as an individual she is not necessarily racist. Surely this is obvious, it’s not advanced political theory
You think that discriminating against GRT people isn't racism?That’s classism not racism. If they were rich she’d have no problem about the colour of their skin. It forms part of a structurally racist society, but as an individual she is not necessarily racist. Surely this is obvious, it’s not advanced political theory
If I’d meant that I would of said that. I don’t even understand what point your making.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Her attitude towards the GRT community is extremely racist and she uses racist rhetoric against immigrants and refugeesThat’s classism not racism. If they were rich she’d have no problem about the colour of their skin. It forms part of a structurally racist society, but as an individual she is not necessarily racist. Surely this is obvious, it’s not advanced political theory
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that she doesn't like black people but she'll keep quiet if they're rich
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Gypsies, Roma and Travellers
Gypsy, Romany & Traveller
What evidence do you have for that? She’s BAME herself, in case that’s escaped your notice. Although being racist isn’t confined to white people, obviously.
I still think that’s classism not racism. If the immigrant is wealthy, I bet she has no problem.
eta: I’m not aware of her views on GRT, are they vile?
Yes, that was my original point
No, discriminating against Gypsies is racism
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just her actions as home secretary
did you just after your second sentence realise how utterly stupid it was?
Well she wants to confiscate their homes
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Yes, very. And it is racism cos of the rhetoric she employs and the people her words are designed to appeal to
Sure. As I’ve said above, I wasn’t aware that she’d been specifically racist towards them, although not surprised. I’m fairly confident she’s an unpleasant bitch. I just don’t think her immigration policy is primarily racist. It’s money that talks with her, not colour. Although could well be both, which is why I was asking you for any examples you were aware of. I mean she’s basically Cruella DeVille isn’t she.
Yes, what rhetoric? And what measures has she taken against them? GRT get the brunt of overt racism nowadays.
It’s primarily class. That is my argument.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I know you say you don’t keep up with the news, but perhaps you should
I probably should but it’s been a challenging few months and I’ve been avoiding it for well-being
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Starry Wisdom
i don't think it is. i think she dislikes black people (and grt people) but simply won't be overtly nasty to rich people. that's not not being racist, it's being bought.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Fair enough, but it’s a bit rich to say you’re unaware of her racism and racist policies cos you’ve had your head buried in the sand. Priti Patel has been like this for years anywayI probably should but it’s been a challenging few months and I’ve been avoiding it for well-being
TopCat
Putin fanboy
If you are voting for her and her ilk it’s probably easier to turn a blind eye.
She quite possibly is racist too, and possibly overtly (hence me asking for examples). But my point still stands. It’s primarily class war and needs to be called as such.
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if you're treating one lot of serfs or workers worse than another lot of serfs or workers because of their race then that's racism
and it is none the less racism even if you toady rich people of that race
do you have any examples of her treating rich gypsies better than poor ones?
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