Labour has a homophobia and transphobia problem

[steveseagull]

It has not been a great weekend has it.

Keith extolling the virtues of a church that practices conversion therapy. Is forced to delete it after three days of pressure and Stephen Timms doubles down on it a day later.

Plus, Rosie Duffield.

With all this dog whistling going on, the party no longer appears to be a safe space for LGBTQ+ and trans people.

 

[danny la rouge]

Or Gypsy, Roma Traveller people.

 

[Orang Utan]

then there's the racism.

I kind of wish for the demise of the Labour party almost as much as the Tories

 

[IC3D]

The old Labour voter doesn't like Jews, gays or trannies.
Has an opinion on the war of the Roses, rugby league and a mistrust of southerners.
Crown Green bowls for Tories naturally.

 

[Orang Utan]

Remember

The old Labour voter doesn't like Jews, gays or trannies.

Or anyone with a "funny tinge" (though I know that was said when Angela Smith had left them)

 

[JTG]

They don't like northerners much either given they're determined to characterise them as bigots who hate the gays/blacks/anyone different

 

[8ball]

Or working class people.

 

[mojo pixy]

Or socialists. Unelectable.

 

[IC3D]

Once you go pass the everyone is equal crap identity polytics is impossible to create a coherent political party because within each identity is a another spectrum of identities to unpack where as Tories.. FLAG, FUCKING FLAHG WOOF!.
Post not indended to dismiss anyone aye

 

[Athos]

... LGBTQ+ and trans people.

You didn't need the "and trans people" they are the 'T' in 'LGBTQ+'.

 

[8ball]

Once you go pass the everyone is equal crap identity polytics is impossible to create a coherent political party because within each identity is a another spectrum of identities to unpack...

They don’t like Russian dolls either.

 

[JTG]

It has not been a great weekend has it.

Keith extolling the virtues of a church that practices conversion therapy. Is forced to delete it after three days of pressure and Stephen Timms doubles down on it a day later.

Plus, Rosie Duffield.

With all this dog whistling going on, the party no longer appears to be a safe space for LGBTQ+ and trans people.

Anyway, back on track, this is absolutely correct. Duffield is a disgrace who should have the whip removed but she's not a left winger so she can do what she wants

 

[Funky_monks]

The old Labour voter doesn't like Jews, gays or trannies.
Has an opinion on the war of the Roses, rugby league and a mistrust of southerners.
Crown Green bowls for Tories naturally.

Whilst not perfect, Rugby League has quite a proud history of diversity, its certainly better than football, or Rugby Union in that regard.

Super League Black History Round: Rugby league icons in focus

Also, Crown Green bowls was played by my (communist until the fall of the iron curtain) grandad.

 

[brogdale]

Anyway, back on track, this is absolutely correct. Duffield is a disgrace who should have the whip removed but she's not a left winger so she can do what she wants

Doubt that she'll hold Canterbury in 2024 if the vermin can find a vaguely credible candidate locally.

 

[JTG]

Doubt that she'll hold Canterbury in 2024 if the vermin can find a vaguely credible candidate locally.

She's going to struggle to find as many people willing to knock on doors for her as in 17 & 19 as well

 

[Maggot]

It has not been a great weekend has it.

Keith extolling the virtues of a church that practices conversion therapy.

With all this dog whistling going on, the party no longer appears to be a safe space for LGBTQ+ and trans people.

He apologised and took the video down. What more do you want?

 

[Orang Utan]

He apologised and took the video down. What more do you want?

Him not to have done it in the first place
And for him not to be such a soft weathervane

 

[steveseagull]

He apologised and took the video down. What more do you want?

Took him three days and a shit load of pressure mate. Not acceptable.

 

[William of Walworth]

<deleted -- various reasons -- no offence>

 

[steveseagull]

<deleted -- various reasons -- no offence>

That is probably wishful thinking now a Blairite London MP has doubled down on it.

 

[Maggot]

Took him three days and a shit load of pressure mate. Not acceptable.

So your issue is that he didn't apologise quicker? Give him a break, it was a bank holiday weekend.

And if there was a homophobia problem he wouldn't have apologised at all.

 

[Orang Utan]

So your issue is that he didn't apologise quicker? Give him a break, it was a bank holiday weekend.

And if there was a homophobia problem he wouldn't have apologised at all.

What’s the thinking behind that?

 

[Maggot]

It's Easter. He deserved some time off (probably).

 

[Orang Utan]

It's Easter. He deserved some time off (probably).

He should not have gone in the first place, and I was referring to your comment that ‘if there was a homophobia problem then he wouldn’t have apologised’.

 

[steveseagull]

So your issue is that he didn't apologise quicker? Give him a break, it was a bank holiday weekend.

And if there was a homophobia problem he wouldn't have apologised at all.

Bank holiday or not. It was a massive problem that festered for three days with a shed load of LGBTQ+ people deserting the party.

It was damaging. It was at best utter incompetence, at worse dog whistling to the hard right. How are these people so bad at this?

 

[Maggot]

He should not have gone in the first place, and I was referring to your comment that ‘if there was a homophobia problem then he wouldn’t have apologised’.

Yes, of course he shouldn't have gone in the first place. Apologising for mistakenly supporting somewhere once you find out it's homophobic links is not a sign of a homophobia problem.

 

[friendofdorothy]

With all this dog whistling going on, the party no longer appears to be a safe space for LGBTQ+ and trans people.

I don't keep up with news or party politics - is any political party a safe space for LGBTQI people?

 

[Maggot]

Bank holiday or not. It was a massive problem that festered for three days with a shed load of LGBTQ+ people deserting the party.

Not heard about lots of people leaving the party. Have you got a link?

 

[friendofdorothy]

I find it amazing that hetro society now actually cares about this when no one used to give a toss about us.

 

[Shechemite]

he should have gone on PressTV instead of going to a dodgy church.