Kazakhstan: New troubles bought on by fuel price hike

[teqniq]

This has been going on since at least Jan 2nd and quite possibly longer:

Kazakhstan: Demonstrators gain upper hand in increasingly turbulent unrest

Demonstrations across Kazakhstan have reached an unprecedented level of intensity as huge crowds of protests clash with police and National Guard

eurasianet.org

Kremlin warning against 'outside interference'

Kremlin warns against outside interference in Kazakhstan

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Wednesday that Kazakhstan could solve its own problems and it was important that no one interfered from the outside, RIA news agency reported.

www.reuters.com

 

[danny la rouge]

Interesting stuff.

 

[LDC]

Kazakhstan, ten years after the Zhanaozen massacre: oil workers’ fight to organise goes on

Ten years after police massacred striking oil workers at Zhanaozen, Kazakhstan, human rights organisations and trades unionists are demanding an international inquiry into the killings. Even now, t…

peopleandnature.wordpress.com

Simon Pirani writes some good stuff on that part of the world.

 

[teqniq]

Kazakhstan, ten years after the Zhanaozen massacre: oil workers’ fight to organise goes on

Ten years after police massacred striking oil workers at Zhanaozen, Kazakhstan, human rights organisations and trades unionists are demanding an international inquiry into the killings. Even now, t…

peopleandnature.wordpress.com

Simon Pirani writes some good stuff on that part of the world.

There are a few threads from quite some time ago which is why i started a new one. this one may be relevant (from 2011):

Kazakhstan: Oil and gas strikers force release of arrested colleagues

Bet you cannot wait for the latest news from sunny Kazakhstan.... So whats been happening - well 15,000 oil and gas workers have been on strike for over two weeks in the Mangistauskaya region demanding a wage increase and the nationalisation of the oil and gas company, as well the right to...

www.urban75.net

 

[Diamond]

Looks rather like intelligence work, does it not?

 

[Diamond]

Curious timing with Ukraine - could hardly be more convenient for the West or more inconvenient for Putin. If it is intelligence work, it is rather well done.

 

[LDC]

Looks rather like intelligence work, does it not?

Yeah, thousands of people rising up for a whole host of reasons, inc. mismanagement of fuel price increases by the State. Must be the CIA.

Did you even read the articles, or know what's been going on there at all, or are you just making a know-nothing speculation?

 

[Diamond]

Yeah, thousands of people rising up for a whole host of reasons, inc. mismanagement of fuel price increases by the State. Must be the CIA.

Did you even read the articles, or know what's been going on there at all, or are you just making a know-nothing speculation?

Following a few online accounts actually. This chap, who I'm not 100% sure about to be perfectly honest, has some thoughts:

 

[LDC]

I think you're right to not be 100% sure of him tbh. Have you looked through his Twitter feed? It's fucking bonkers conspiracy central.

 

[Serge Forward]

Those red/brown elements are also quick to start flinging the "Western plot" line about

 

[not-bono-ever]

A mineral rich country Jammed between 2 of the biggest wanker nations in the world. Let’s hope the Kazakh citizens can sort this out themselves before assistance arrives

 

[Artaxerxes]

Those red/brown elements are also quick to start flinging the "Western plot" line about

Remember the crackdown in HK was due to Western aggression

 

[kebabking]

llowing a few online accounts actually. This chap, who I'm not 100% sure about to be perfectly honest, has some thoughts:

Christ, you're fucking dumber than I thought - and my opinion was pretty low to start with...

 

[eatmorecheese]

Following a few online accounts actually. This chap, who I'm not 100% sure about to be perfectly honest, has some thoughts:

Thoughts. Yeah.

"Not looking good for the Dems"

 

[not-bono-ever]

Following a few online accounts actually. This chap, who I'm not 100% sure about to be perfectly honest, has some thoughts:

SIS don’t really do this you know

 

[nogojones]

Following a few online accounts actually. This chap, who I'm not 100% sure about to be perfectly honest, has some thoughts:

Sounds legit. I can't see any reason the people of Kazakhstan would have cause to be upset at their government.

 

[Crispy]

It is not looking good. The government has resigned (leaving Tokaev in sole control) and the protestors, while scoring some victories overnight, are now getting gunned down.
The army is going in, and Russia is sending their own troops to help.
(expand the whole twitter thread here)


Meanwhile Kazakh army firing on civilians in Almaty

 

[gosub]

 

[Rimbaud]

Curious timing with Ukraine - could hardly be more convenient for the West or more inconvenient for Putin. If it is intelligence work, it is rather well done.

Of course, rising fuel prices have never been known to fuel political unrest anywhere in the world ever.

Yellow Vests were paid by Putin to launch a colour revolution against Macron. Where else could they have got funding to buy banners? Someone on YouTube said they saw a Russian in Paris once and it was backed up by this guy on Twitter so 100% verified FACT.

 

[Rimbaud]

Following a few online accounts actually. This chap, who I'm not 100% sure about to be perfectly honest, has some thoughts:

Can you name any protests in the last 15 years in a country which isn't allied with with West which haven't been dismissed as colour revolutions? Are we to believe then that only Western Europeans and Americans are capable of organising their own protests without being tools of foreign agents?

Sounds kind of racist to me...

 

[IC3D]

Of course, rising fuel prices have never been known to fuel political unrest anywhere in the world ever.

Yellow Vests were paid by Putin to launch a colour revolution against Macron. Where else could they have got funding to buy banners? Someone on YouTube said they saw a Russian in Paris once and it was backed up by this guy on Twitter so 100% verified FACT.

Yes and it's a well known fact superpowers are very friendly and have a live and let live attitude to small countries with vast natural resourses

 

[BristolEcho]

Can you name any protests in the last 15 years in a country which isn't allied with with West which haven't been dismissed as colour revolutions? Are we to believe then that only Western Europeans and Americans are capable of organising their own protests without being tools of foreign agents?

Sounds kind of racist to me...

What does the "dismissed as colour revolutions mean?"

 

[Rimbaud]

What does the "dismissed as colour revolutions mean?"

Dismissed as being an attempt by the CIA to AstroTurf regime change.

Every time there is a protest movement in Asia the same tired knee-jerk response automatically appears from some quarters.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Citizens in Bishkek publicly demanding that no Kyrg should be sent to Kazakhstan

 

[Rimbaud]

Yes and it's a well known fact superpowers are very friendly and have a live and let live attitude to small countries with vast natural resourses

Of course various powers will take an interest in it but you can't just magic up a protest.

Places where there have been open US support for rebel groups have tended to backfire in fact - such as Afghanistan and Syria. Which shows that they don't have such control over when protests occur or how they develop.

This worldview is kind of like claiming that the IRA were simply pawns of Libya, or that the Miners Strike was caused by Soviet interference.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Baikonur is just down the road from Almaty ( these things are all relative ) , still under lease to Russia and an income generator for Russia these days.

 

[IC3D]

Neither of those examples were states. But I take your point. Rimbaud

 

[rekil]

Those red/brown elements are also quick to start flinging the "Western plot" line about

Vermin like this will be among their favoured sources.

Spoiler

 

[Diamond]

Citizens in Bishkek publicly demanding that no Kyrg should be sent to Kazakhstan

Very interesting. That CSTO element is something that I wasn’t so aware of before. Slight sense of Putin over-reaching in his USSR rebuild now.

 

[teqniq]

Boot on the other foot here, not CIA but islamists:



(use the translate button on the quoted tweet)