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Just got an allotment and have no idea how things work

Do not - DO NOT - get a Goat.

This is almost certainly the most/only useful contribution I can make to this thread, but it is - I promise you, a biggy.

That is all.
Occasionally we have to spend a lot of money clearing gardens of tenants who either didn't bother with them, or weren't able to keep them any more - I'd love to have some Council goats we could send in to eat everything , probably cheaper than getting a specialist firm in.
 
Now if I had to have an allotment I'd cover it all in astro turf.

However. Ms 747 is into all that growing stuff shit and guess who does the heavy lifting? I'd buy (or rent if you can where you are) a garden shredder and a petrol driven strimmer these two things will make much shorter work of clearing the site. If you wanted to go the whole labour saving hog you could hire a cultivator as well to break all the soil up.

In either case you could then cover 3/4 of it with geo textile for a season to get rid of most of the weeds. Fruit bushes on a quarter of it - so you can learn to hate birds as well as slugs - then look at what other people on the allotments are growing well, or even better ask advice from the 90 year old women and men tilling their plots as to what works well locally.
 
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Occasionally we have to spend a lot of money clearing gardens of tenants who either didn't bother with them, or weren't able to keep them any more - I'd love to have some Council goats we could send in to eat everything , probably cheaper than getting a specialist firm in.
They could have a phone line ... Who you gonna call?

Goat Busters!

I am so very sorry.

 
There's a willow sapling growing in the area where the pond is. It seems a shame to kill it but I really don't want it growing there. So...does anyone want a willow tree I guess, or can help me move it :D
 
The brambles need to be cut back at the very least tbh. I don't think I want them that big. They suggested trying to tackle them properly next year?
Get some decent heavy duty gloves for this, motorbike gloves are good ime, if you know anyone with an older pair they don't need anymore. I'd take the brambles back during the winter as long as it's not too cold tbh, that when I cut the ones in the ditch next to the garden and the basts still come back year after year
 
Borrow/hire a rotavator thing and smash the weeds to bits that are easy to pick out.

Install a large compost bin.

Plant kale to harvest in the winter and have with your xmas dinner
 
The ground's likely to be pretty tough at the moment. You might not even be able to get a fork into it, so it may just be a case of clearing growth from on top and waiting for it to rain some more.

The only advice I can offer is:

1. that keeping a patch clear is about 20% of the effort of clearing a patch. So get a bit clear and in use, then look to extend it.
2. Don't listen to anyone suggesting you cover it with plastic or old carpet. That's just a great way to breed slugs.
3. Copy what everyone else is doing there.

Enjoy it. They're usually a great community and everyone there tends to have common goals.
 
I'd buy (or rent if you can where you are) a garden shredder and a petrol driven strimmer these two things will make much shorter work of clearing the site. If you wanted to go the whole labour saving hog you could hire a cultivator as well to break all the soil up.
please try not to mutilate any hedgehogs that might be living in the overgrown plot with a nasty strimmer
 
I was in a very similar position 3 or 4 years ago....didn't know very much about gardening at all, but took a step at a time. Clearing, building raised beds, preparing soil, etc. Had autumn and winter to do so, then got planting in the spring of first lockdown.
I learnt as I went along, but for some reason (beginner's luck probably) didn't do very much wrong and ended up with fresh vegetables all through summer and autumn. All the typical stuff I guess: Potatoes, beans, corguettes, pumpkins, tomatoes, pak choi, radishes, kale, cavelo nero, spinach, aubergines, etc etc.
I had a new born baby and lockdown was taken seriously, so I had plenty of time to take care of everything.
Loved it.
If you like being outdoors and have a bit of time to put into it you'll really enjoy it I'm sure.

It's very addictive!
 
I don't have many tips for crop as others know a lot more about it, but it's worth thinking ahead and what to plant and harvest when. Between radishes and cavelo nero you can regularly harvest things to eat between may and december.

Youtube and SubUrban are your friends.
 
If you use a petrol one the noise should get all but the most somnolent ones to fuck off sharpish.
so it´s OK if I come round and demolish your house as long as the bulldozer is really noisy?

seriously, if there´s been a pond, a rewilded allotment might have all sorts of wildlife dependent on it...move slowly and provide a little bit of habitat...I´m sure you will consult with Bethsheba about this..
 
on a side note - my allotment was bulldozed (literally) by some demolition contractors hired by Volvo last year. We fought long and hard, and eventually we won the battle. Works to re-establish our plots will start in autumn, hopefully everything will be in place before the next season.
 
I'm planning to get rid of dead grass (aware thats easier said than done) clear out / fill up the pond and maybe cut a path past the blackberries to the border for now. I think the liner will probably need replacing because the tree has grown through it :(
 
I don't really grow that many vegetables, Froggy, but I definitely grow as many potatoes as space and rotations allow. I cannot grow any of the onion family apart from leeks (because of white rot on the site) and I do tomatoes in the greenhouse...so I generally just grow summer crops such as squash/courgettes/french beans and saladings. Always laugh at the 'potatoes will break down the soil'. They won't, but YOU will...trenching, planting earthing up, harvesting. There is nothing so absolutely delicious as a fresh, home-grown potato...and I cannot praise the great all-rounder, second early 'Kestrel' enough. I still recall the first taste, over 20 years ago, which took me back to childhood, when potatoes tasted of something other than starchy blandness. It was a revelation. But anyway, you do have time on your side so you can watch a lot of videos and read some books. Often, in chazzas, I come across a couple of guides put out by the RHS - 'The Vegetable Garden Displayed' and it's sister publication, the Fruit Garden Dis[played. Fantastic stuff. Mine is ancient and features lots of 'chaps' with corduroy trousers, braces and flat caps, and almost everything is sown directly into the soil. Then there are websites such as Charles Dowding's No-Dig site. A bit spendy, to implement his ideas, involving tonnes of compost...but I would suggest you do knock-up a composting bin with pallets and wire. Compost is the heart of the plot...and soon, you will be able to collect leaves for leaf-mould.

Ah, I wouldn't even consider textile underlay (soz A380) - a nightmare which will not stop weeds. Might, as a last resort, use around permanent shrubs such as currants.Looks awful and has to be covered.. smaller weeds will simply root in the surface mulch or detritus...while dandelions will actually batter their way through! And after a couple of years, it will be a nasty, fraying nightmare. You would probably be better with a temporary cover of cardboard. Does much the same thing (keeps out light, keeps moisture in) and gracefully degrades down. Will home a lot of slugs but hey, hedgehogs and frogs!! Get a really good hoe. My eldest swears by a circular how, while I have something called a 'swoe'. Basically a knife on a stick so keep it sharp. And buy a good fork and spade - try them out for height and weight. I like Bulldog green-paintred steel with ash handles (durable but weighty). And also, something I have only recently been using, a hori-hori knife. Your tools are one of your greatest assets so go for the best you can although you can come across ancient spades at car boot sales and even antique-y shops. I have bought some lovely old tools which are still better made than anything we find at the likes of B&Q. O, and secateurs. Felco have been the industry standard for literally decades...with good reason. For small hands (like mine) they do a fabulous No.6 pair of secateurs. Fancy Japanese ones are available (and are lovely too) but definitely avoid Spear and Jackson, Darlac, and imitation olde worlde ones with wooden handles. My secateurs are my most used item and come with me everywhere , everyday (cos you never know when you might see a potential cutting or a nasty whipping bramble).
 
The big question is are you going to water it with a hose
we didn't have water access at ours. During the dry summer when rain water barrels were empty we had to run a hose from the nearest estate about 150m away to re-fill the barrels. The water pressure was bad, filling the barrels took all day. Had to be done once or twice a week. We had a rota nobody stuck to.
 
Ah you’ve grown lettuce and Pak Choi before.

My plot had the best fed slugs on the planet.
Ha. Me too.
Looked like it was going to be amazing. Grew so fast, but was then immediately consumed. Boom.
At least it drew the attention away from the spinach (not so much the spring onions.
I bet if pak choi wasn't munched up by slugs and snails it would be rocketing up like bamboo. Such a shame. Not sure what to do about it.
 
we didn't have water access at ours. During the dry summer when rain water barrels were empty we had to run a hose from the nearest estate about 150m away to re-fill the barrels. The water pressure was bad, filling the barrels took all day. Had to be done once or twice a week. We had a rota nobody stuck to.

I specifically applied for sites with water for this reason, even though they are a bit further away from my home.
Chance of me getting one before I die (or move away, which will hopefully happen at some point prior to the previous option) is slim though.
 
Ha. Me too.
Looked like it was going to be amazing. Grew so fast, but was then immediately consumed. Boom.
At least it drew the attention away from the spinach (not so much the spring onions.
I bet if pak choi wasn't munched up by slugs and snails it would be rocketing up like bamboo. Such a shame. Not sure what to do about it.
I had it in a very large planter on chairs. The slugs largely didn't bother, and the odd one that dared would be re-located.
 
I specifically applied for sites with water for this reason, even though they are a bit further away from my home.
Chance of me getting one before I die (or move away, which will hopefully happen at some point prior to the previous option) is slim though.
was a bit of a drag, but given the choice I'd rather do that than not growing stuff at all.
 
I've just joined a site and taken a completely overgrown plot because it had a pond, which is now dried up 🤣 I have no clue what I'm doing tbh, would be great if someone suggested some places to start :D

you can order seeds online, but it's too later to plant them now unless you do auto flowers ones :hmm:
 
it's amazing how much rain water can be collected in a short while when a few barrels are inter-connected.
 
you can order seeds online, but it's too later to plant them now unless you do auto flowers ones :hmm:
I know you're talking about a different kind of seed, but - my sister (in Germany) ordered a lot of organic seeds online, off a seller with a good rep. Shortly after her email was spammed by all sorts of fash stuff. She dug a bit deeper and found clear links between her seller and the fash scene. Organic allotments are very popular with German fash. It's big business.
 
I know you're talking about a different kind of seed, but - my sister (in Germany) ordered a lot of organic seeds online, off a seller with a good rep. Shortly after her email was spammed by all sorts of fash stuff. She dug a bit deeper and found clear links between her seller and the fash scene. Organic allotments are very popular with German fash. It's big business.


See also “NATIVE SEEDS” here. Lot of prejudice seeps in to gardening from a class and immigration perspective.

Real Seeds seems to be fairly good though, got all my veg seed from there aside from the kabocha
 
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