Johnny Depp Libel Case

[D'wards]

Do tell us more about your feelings and how you came to this view.

Cba, I'm gonna go and finish me book and disengage.
Nanight

 

[Plumdaff]

Of course not.

But it doesn't make him a wife beater.

You know that the US case wasn't about that?

 

[Plumdaff]

Everyone does understand that large sections of the us case weren't heard online?

 

[Rob Ray]

So you have 100% faith the British Court system is infallible.
Good to know

And you appear to have placed your faith in a majority male US jury, which you wouldn't have done if they'd found the other way. As you note yourself, your loyalty to the legal system is based on your personal interpretation of what you saw.

 

[Raheem]

So you have 100% faith the British Court system is infallible.
Good to know

I guess the great thing about this case is you can believe whichever court you prefer to.

 

[Dystopiary]

Whatever she's done or not done, the absolute fuckton of misogynist stuff online about her and her alleged mental health has been horrible. That definitely wasn't all about her, it was like it was an outlet for acceptable hatred and mocking of women.

 

[Sue]

Cba, I'm gonna go and finish me book and disengage.
Nanight

I see. So you can pronounce on my thought processes (or apparent lack of thought processes ) based on your 'feelings' but won't/can't back any of that up. That's pretty rubbish tbh.

 

[Mumbles274]

It shouldn't have been televised. It's been an online hatefest. Genuinely awful.

That says more about the people partaking in that than the trial imo. The hatefest shouldn't stop the transparency of the judicial system should it? I'm not sure! Is the circus not inevitable and what comes with the status of those involved

 

[Rob Ray]

he absolute fuckton of misogynist stuff online about her and her alleged mental health has been horrible

And will continue to be for years to come. The crew of scumbags who've been merrily weaponising this as an emblematic example of Evil Manipulative Woman will bring her up at every future case, will throw it in the face of every abused woman who considers taking them to task. It'll be used as fodder for campaigns to undermine "believe the survivor" and fuel for the next generation of incels. It's been a fucking disaster zone.

 

[Plumdaff]

That says more about the people partaking in that than the trial imo. The hatefest shouldn't stop the transparency of the judicial system should it? I'm not sure! Is the circus not inevitable and what comes with the status of those involved

This trial included a psychologist testifying the most outrageous hateful shite about people with borderline personality disorder I've ever heard. Genuinely dangerous stuff I fear. That kind of biased nonsense is, I understand, fairly typical in the US system, but now many people have heard that women with BPD are untrustworthy, violent manipulators. A group of people we know already experience massive prejudice, even when it comes to getting adequate pain relief when they are ill. A group of people who often have experienced trauma, who apparently are unbelievable liars.

It shouldn't have been televised.

 

[Dystopiary]

This trial included a psychologist testifying the most outrageous hateful nonsense about people with borderline personality disorder I've ever heard. Genuinely dangerous stuff I fear. That kind of biased nonsense is, I understand, fairly typical in the US system, but now many people have heard that women with BPD are untrustworthy, violent manipulators. A group of people we know already experience massive prejudice, even when it comes to getting adequate pain relief when they are ill. A group of people who often have experienced trauma, who apparently are unbelievable liars.

It shouldn't have been televised.

I agree.

Also can't help but wonder if a lot of women get diagnosed with PDs by doctors with sexist preconceptions, when there's actually something post-trauma related going on. And now because this trial is so high profile it's another stick to beat them with.

 

[Edie]

This trial included a psychologist testifying the most outrageous hateful shite about people with borderline personality disorder I've ever heard. Genuinely dangerous stuff I fear. That kind of biased nonsense is, I understand, fairly typical in the US system, but now many people have heard that women with BPD are untrustworthy, violent manipulators. A group of people we know already experience massive prejudice, even when it comes to getting adequate pain relief when they are ill. A group of people who often have experienced trauma, who apparently are unbelievable liars.

It shouldn't have been televised.

BPD/EUPD is the epitome of misogynistic victim blaming. Women and girls respond to trauma by learning successful survival strategies that later become maladaptive.

 

[Gerry1time]

Its too obscure, no one would get it.

In the monty python sketch where the bloke writes the funniest joke in the world, which kills anyone from laughing who hears it, they have it translated into German.
The English army run towards the Germans in the war reciting it and they all died laughing.
My pal wrote down the German translation to try and get it translated back to English but it is gibberish German sounding words

Argh, I would have got it! Do I get bonus points for being able to recite the whole joke? Phonetically, it's something like 'Ven ist ein nerlstuchk git un schlottermeir. Ja, veihund das oder die flipperwalt gespuck'.

I learned it off by heart as a kid, and would ask people if they wanted to hear the funniest joke in the world, then recite it.

 

[D'wards]

Argh, I would have got it! Do I get bonus points for being able to recite the whole joke? Phonetically, it's something like 'Ven ist ein nerlstuchk git un schlottermeir. Ja, veihund das oder die flipperwalt gespuck'.

I learned it off by heart as a kid, and would ask people if they wanted to hear the funniest joke in the world, then recite it.

Brilliant!

 

[8ball]

jury comprised of 5 men and 2 women apparently. Guess the outcome isn’t that surprising

Would have been less surprising had it been 5 women and 2 men, if the reactions on my Facebook feed are anything to go by.

One post by a female US colleague has about 30 reactions (nothing very detailed, mostly variations on “yay!”), with all but 2 being from women.

 

[8ball]

It's probably a German word.

Unbediggenmetzeunenschrugd.

(umlaut on the last ‘u’)

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I've not been following, and I don't really care either way about it, but it's weird that it's a jury trial. Strange misuse of the duty to do jury service. Why the fuck should anyone be obligated as a citizen to adjudicate over rubbish like this for rich people?

 

[8ball]

I've not been following, and I don't really care either way about it, but it's weird that it's a jury trial. Strange misuse of the duty to do jury service. Why the fuck should anyone be obligated as a citizen to adjudicate over rubbish like this for rich people?

Yeah, I was surprised it was a jury case too.

 

[spring-peeper]

I've not been following, and I don't really care either way about it, but it's weird that it's a jury trial. Strange misuse of the duty to do jury service. Why the fuck should anyone be obligated as a citizen to adjudicate over rubbish like this for rich people?

I agree!!!!

From the headlines I read, they both seem to be idiots/abusers/victims.....
This should have been handled by something like divorce court.

Maybe, the telecasting of this was supposed to divert our attention to more serious matters. No clue what...

 

[Petcha]

Heard didn't want cameras in there but Depp insisted it was all broadcast. Read into that what you will, I guess he was saying he had nothing to hide but god knows whose decision it was to let him win that little battle. He should give the winnings to charity anyway if as he says 'this isn't about the money'.

 

[spring-peeper]

Heard didn't want cameras in there but Depp insisted it was all broadcast. Read into that what you will, I guess he was saying he had nothing to hide but god knows whose decision it was to let him win that little battle. He should give the winnings to charity anyway if as he says 'this isn't about the money'.

When Heard got money from Depp, she said it was not about the money. She claimed all the money went to charities. But it did not, she lied.

It will be interesting to see if he donates the any.

 

[bimble]

just watched a 7 minute video of the 'best bits' of the trial and jesus christ what a soul destroying horror show. How anyone could get all emotionally invested in this and spend their time & energy "supporting" either of them like its a reality tv competition is fucking beyond me. Horrible depressing shit from every angle but what it says about the enthusiastic spectators is worse than what it says about the actors themselves.

 

[Poot]

just watched a 7 minute video of the 'best bits' of the trial and jesus christ what a soul destroying horror show. How anyone could get all emotionally invested in this and spend their time & energy "supporting" either of them like its a reality tv competition is fucking beyond me. Horrible depressing shit from every angle but what it says about the enthusiastic spectators is worse than what it says about the actors themselves.

Innit. I don't know what Johnny Depp, Amber Heard and the whole bloody world needed but I don't think it was this.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Not really that interested in a couple of rich, spoilt druggies tbf.

With regards to winning the U.K. round of this though, Heard has since admitted to lieing to the High Court in that one, anyone know if that may come back to haunt her a la Archer / Aitken?

 

[kenny g]

Not really that interested in a couple of rich, spoilt druggies tbf.

With regards to winning the U.K. round of this though, Heard has since admitted to lieing to the High Court in that one, anyone know if that may come back to haunt her a la Archer / Aitken?

I have known plenty of people who behave far better than either of them when completely and utterly off their minds so not entirely sure it is fair to besmirch drug users in that way.

I know the Met. Police have strange priorities but issuing an international arrest warrant for perjury against Heard so we can have a further trial potentially leading to her imprisonment is hopefully not going to be top of the list for the new commissioner. Having said that if BoJo gets really desperate about changing the news agenda - who knows.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

I have known plenty of people who behave far better than either of them when completely and utterly off their minds so not entirely sure it is fair to besmirch drug users in that way.

I know the Met. Police have strange priorities but issuing an international arrest warrant for perjury against Heard so we can have a further trial potentially leading to her imprisonment is hopefully not going to be top of the list for the new commissioner. Having said that if BoJo gets really desperate about changing the news agenda - who knows.

Most of us who have caned it have behaved as bad, difference being when we come round we tend to feel a little shame at our actions and don’t choose to fight about them in multi-million dollar court cases.

And it isn’t the police who issue arrest warrants, they enforce them.

 

[girasol]

Depp won because he had the best attorneys - in this show trial they were the best actors/manipulators. It really is a bad day for victims of domestic violence. Heard's team made mistakes and, well, the truth isn't always what counts in court.

If only Depp had the courage to admit he'd been under the influence of drugs (he admitted this much) and he couldn't POSSIBLY REMEMBER everything he did or said while he was in the throes of addiction - so how can he be so sure of what he did or didn't do??? Because there was so much money involved there was no space for grey areas, no room for doubt - so this shit show was the result.

 

[Shechemite]

This trial included a psychologist testifying the most outrageous hateful shite about people with borderline personality disorder I've ever heard. Genuinely dangerous stuff I fear. That kind of biased nonsense is, I understand, fairly typical in the US system, but now many people have heard that women with BPD are untrustworthy, violent manipulators. A group of people we know already experience massive prejudice, even when it comes to getting adequate pain relief when they are ill. A group of people who often have experienced trauma, who apparently are unbelievable liars.

It shouldn't have been televised.

This

 

[Jeff Robinson]

It may well be far from over

 

[Shechemite]