Jesus Myth Theory

[Magnus McGinty]

believe

Well this is the crux of most of it tbh.

 

[Combustible]

I don't believe any account of anything by Pilate survived much beyond his lifetime.

I presume AmateurAgitator is referring to the account by Tacticus, although I don't think that it's clear what was the source of his information.

 

[Pickman's model]

I presume AmateurAgitator is referring to the account by Tacticus, although I don't think that it's clear what was the source of his information.

Yeh the notion of citation was invented by Procopius when writing his secret history in sixth century Byzantium

 

[AmateurAgitator]

I presume AmateurAgitator is referring to the account by Tacticus, although I don't think that it's clear what was the source of his information.

Yes it must have been Tacitus.

 

[8ball]

I don't believe any account of anything by Pilate survived much beyond his lifetime.

Aside from his excellent exercise programme for those wanting to work on core strength.

 

[tim]

The depraved Herrods still have their opulent Knightsbridge department store.

 

[tim]

If you want a video about the evidence existence of Jesus of Nazareth, including the theory that he might have been a mushroom, which wasn't made by a sexual predator, there is this



It's from the fairly ecclectic 'Let's Talk Religion' Youtube Channel


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9dRb4fbJQIbQ3KHJZF_z0g

 

[Ming]

Why did Allah, Moses and Christ all come from a relatively small part of the Middle East? It’s clearly bollocks. We’re all going to die, meaning in life is entirely subjective and that’s about it.

 

[Humberto]

Allah is the spirit, or God the Father in Christianity.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Why did Allah, Moses and Christ all come from a relatively small part of the Middle East? It’s clearly bollocks. We’re all going to die, meaning in life is entirely subjective and that’s about it.

Allah? Surely you mean Mohammad?

 

[Ming]

Allah? Surely you mean Mohammad?

Sorry. Mohammed. Point still remains though.

 

[Ming]

Allah is the spirit, or God the Father in Christianity.

If memory serves the dispute between the Abrahamic religions is who’s the messiah right? Judaism doesn’t think he’s turned up yet, Christianity’s money is on The Christ figure and Islam’s is on Mohammed. But it’s how many angels on the head of a pin right? It’s all bollocks.

 

[Humberto]

There are many routes to Christ,.

 

[JimW]

Why did Allah, Moses and Christ all come from a relatively small part of the Middle East? It’s clearly bollocks. We’re all going to die, meaning in life is entirely subjective and that’s about it.

Well, they were all prophets within the same broad tradition, so naturally they came from the same fairly large geographical area. Bit like how most of the prominent figures in early Confucianism all came from the heartlands of Han culture.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

There are many routes to Christ,.

There are many routes to many things.

 

[Ming]

Well, they were all prophets within the same broad tradition, so naturally they came from the same fairly large geographical area. Bit like how most of the prominent figures in early Confucianism all came from the heartlands of Han culture.

Yeah. It's just culture and fear of death really. Massive geographic element. Someone said to me once that religion was humanity's first attempt at science. That hit a nerve. If you haven't seen it have a look at the documentary The God Who Wasn't There. Debunkes most of this stuff.

 

[Humberto]

Debunks

 

[krtek a houby]

There are many routes to many things.

All hail the route master!

 

[Humberto]

Glad it's been debunked that always wins.

 

[8ball]

Why did Allah, Moses and Christ all come from a relatively small part of the Middle East?

It was the New York of its time. You might as well ask why aliens, superheroes, monsters and vampires keep turning up in New York.

 

[Ming]

It was the New York of its time. You might as well ask why aliens, superheroes, monsters and vampires keep turning up in New York.

Yeah! God needs publicity apparently. I think turning up in French Polynesia would have been a better option though. More pilgrim dollars.

 

[8ball]

Yeah! God needs publicity apparently. I think turning up in French Polynesia would have been a better option though. More pilgrim dollars.

Jesus wasn’t into money that much, apparently. Trust fund kid, you know what they’re like.

 

[Ming]

Jesus wasn’t into money that much, apparently. Trust fund kid, you know what they’re like.

Good for the broader business contact group though.

 

[Raheem]

Jesus wasn’t into money that much, apparently. Trust fund kid, you know what they’re like.

Powerful dad.

 

[Ming]

Powerful dad.

Same person.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

If memory serves the dispute between the Abrahamic religions is who’s the messiah right? Judaism doesn’t think he’s turned up yet, Christianity’s money is on The Christ figure and Islam’s is on Mohammed. But it’s how many angels on the head of a pin right? It’s all bollocks.

Muslims actually believe that Jesus was the messiah, and that he will return. They believe that Muhammad was the main prophet, but not the messiah.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Muslims actually believe that Jesus was the messiah, and that he will return. They believe that Muhammad was the main prophet, but not the messiah.

I thought Muslims accept Jesus as a prophet but not the messiah?

 

[ElizabethofYork]

I thought Muslims accept Jesus as a prophet but not the messiah?

My understanding is that the quran describes Jesus as al-masih (the messiah sent to the jews) but that he was not divine. He is considered a major prophet in Islam.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

My understanding is that the quran describes Jesus as al-masih (the messiah sent to the jews) but that he was not divine. He is considered a major prophet in Islam.

So do they consider Mohammad to be divine? I'm showing my ignorance here.

 

[Pickman's model]

So do they consider Mohammad to be divine? I'm showing my ignorance here.

No, Mohammed is not divine - there is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet