Raheem
Well-Known Member
So Paul is great evidence that Jesus existed, but only if we approach the question presupposing that Jesus existed.
Jesus Myth Theory
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Let me rephrase. Paul never met Jesus but clearly was in no doubt that Jesus existed. And if Jesus existed, Paul will have met people who met him. It would be puzzling for Paul to believe that Jesus existed if he never met anyone who said they knew him. But then again, Paul was a nutter.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Not really. There are millions of people who believe Jesus existed without having met anyone who said they knew him.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
The equivalent would be them believing Jesus existed despite not finding anyone who said they knew him when he died around 2019.
I am open to the idea that Paul was such a deranged individual that he did believe that...
Raheem
Well-Known Member
No, that's not a remotely valid comparison. Paul wasn't writing four years after Jesus is supposed to have died. Not that that's the biggest problem with what you are saying.
mojo pixy
...שלא נמצא בשמאל
"They" called that man Jesus Christ (at least the Greek thereof). He {if he} has no other recorded name.
It would not be the first 'eccentric' opinion shared on Urban75, I believe you may even have shared a few of your own on various matters
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Aye, I’m quite into eccentrics. I’m really not fussed what you think about the historicity of Jesus. I’m just idling."They" called that man Jesus Christ, he {if he} has no other recorded name.
It would not be the first 'eccentric' opinion shared on Urban75, I believe you may even have shared a few of your own on various matters
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
His conversion is supposed (by him) to have happened around then.
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
I think Jesus was written to be the Spinal Tap of his day by this Paul bloke, a fake documentary to get across some ideas and stories. In 2000 years people will be arguing about whether they really built a 20 inches high stone henge, and the real stone henge will be used in the evidence.
Why not?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
He was from the sticks.
True, although Greek was the lingua franca. Romans and other official personages would presumably have thought of him as Jesus.
ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
'Jesus' isn't Greek, you know. It's English, and some other languages.
What are you on about? Of course it's Greek.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I tend to put that one in with the Christ likeness tortilla chips, pieces of the true cross, saints fingernails and so on.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
In Islam, he's often referred to as Isa, son of Maryam.
Yeshua, I'm fine with, but people at that time had other names than son- or daughter- of X. I just see no reason to retcon a name this way.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
There's more to the Shroud, than that
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
No there isn't. It's been carbon-dated to the 13th century for starters.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Why do you believe that?
bcuster
Well-Known Member
There's tons of articles about the Shroud. Far too many to begin to give links to. The carbon testing that has been done has been characterized as unreliable
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Characterised by whom?
bcuster
Well-Known Member
Are there any problems with the carbon-14 shroud dating?
- Robert Rucker, a nuclear analyst turned Shroud of Turin researcher, is another of many experts who take issue with the Carbon-14 Shroud dating. In a paper published in July 2020, he highlighted 15 problems with the suggested age derived from the Carbon-14 study.
PTK
Paul Kegan
Do you actually believe that God created the image on the Shroud of Turin?
If so, why?
Would it not have been better for Him to have created some photographs, if not videos, of Jesus? That would have been more believable.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
No, it doesn't.
ouirdeaux
Caring, Understanding, Non-judgemental Type
The Greek for Jesus is Ἰησοῦς. It is not pronounced like the English Jesus (or Spanish, French or whatever.). But you're a troll, so more stupid me for even replying. Just doing it for the benefit of non-trolls.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
The whole shroud nonsense. It's astounding. Might as well worship a slice of toast with a likeness of Jesus's face on it.
