If you are not lazy and unfair, which a lot of posters here are, only to do what herd does naturally, mobbing and such, in their "strength and wisdom", then you will check this and the other thread and find my posts like this:
"Oh, c'mon, LBJ: which animal is concerned by its own actions which can potentially extinguishing other species (communicating globally and intergenerationally is essential here, when it comes to understanding what we do and then planning to avoid destructive outcomes)? Which animal is concerned with potential consequences of our actions today for umpteen generations to come? Which animal is capable of radically changing its social relations? Where in the Animal Kingdom did you see Revolution happen? Which animal has morals in the Modern sense of the word? Which animal creates legal constructs based on equaliberty? Which animal does what we do, when we are at our best, creative, imaginative, freedom loving, emancipatory leaning, reflective, not acting out of necessity and even against our immediate interest (self-active, I guess is a good word for this) etc. etc.?!?!?!?!?!?
And where in our "genome" is the clear and unambiguous, scientific answer for this?"
And NO ONE DARES INTERACT WITH ANY OF THIS!!! You - especially the "one-liner bunch" but also some others who at least try (like LBJ) do not have the specific education and/or knowledge necessary to do this, so you are "heroically" avoiding dealing with it!
And yet...
In the other thread one can find my posts like this (
#1471):
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Ok...
Dash, you can have a go at me any time, I don't mind, I can defend myself, but dead cannot. Not in this sense, when we take them individually, and we even have no idea what they have done in their lifetime. So, that was really bad, as you couldn't have known if you were utterly unfair, as not even close in your presumptions, simply incorrect!
Attacking Hitler individually, for instance, for whom we have plenty of evidence what he was doing, is one thing, but attacking somebody's family just because they are from somewhere, where in fact they may have stood together with your ancestors, fighting this evil - is very wrong, indeed, on oh so many levels.
Yes, I am from a proud Anti-Fascist family. And an Anti-Fascist country [Yugoslavia is where I was borne and I do feel like a Yugoslav, if pushed, although that is but an accident of History, as Voltaire would put it, so irrelevant to anything that really matters for Humans], if you wish.
I took their values of Humanity and fought against the herd-mentality, as it were, of the sur-real Socialism I lived in and fought for precisely the spirit of their struggle. Mutual recognition and justice and fairness, fairer outcomes for all. Hence I worked with others on abolishing the totalitarian regime I grew up under.
In everything we do we not only have choices which are already there but we can make new ones, if we are Human. That is the quality animals do not have. That is the essence of who we are: the ability to Reason, to think creatively, our imagination, striving for freedom, justice and fairness and so on.
Now, most people do not have a chance to even get close to being well educated and explore their creativity etc. These outcomes must be changed. I do actually want that for all, the good quality education I got, as that - to my mind - lies atthe heart of who we potentially may become. And that is the essence of Humanity: becoming. Not because I feel everyone should be like me but because everybody should have a much better chance to develop their potential in all directions.
Humanism should be at the basis of it all, forget Social Darwinism and reductionism of any and all sorts. That is dangerous! And that means we, all of us, individually and collectively, have to use, among other things, our capacities to Reason and judge, all the time. We actually do not have any other choice. As opposed to this "relativist" argument, all is more or les the same etc. It isn't and it will never be!
The Q is: which principles, which grounds for our judgement will there be at the heart of it all and will most people be aware how they are affected and influenced by their context etc. [Hence CT as one of the best ways into it all.]
Hope that clears it up a bit. I thought your response warranted a clarification, since any - even half - decent apology and an effort to meet "the other" must be met with at least an equal effort from the other side. Only then, with some good will, doing it all in good faith - do we, as Humans, have any chance of getting anywhere and hence this response, even though I really should be writing those damn essays... Really tight now...
Later...
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So, I am trying to be civil and then
#1473 etc.
Eventually, curses start... but not from me! I do respond in kind after he starts it, of course. And then some clever dick, full of fairness, conveniently forgets about the beginning, just takes a shot at me, whynot... Echhh...
Or this one:
"We've been through this before: we (Humans) can only ever have "a mesh of notions" (as some would put it wrongly) that we have made for ourselves, which are continuously changing, as we know, i.e. every new generation keeps making their own. We are not "God", our Science is not Religion, it does not deal in absolutes, even though some here imply/pre-suppose some such frequently/generally held nonsense, hence our limited (even if we are connected trans-generationally through language etc.)
gnosis (Science and technology, Philosophy etc.) always comes up with a partial picture...
But that, again, is missing the point of the difference between us and animals (and we are talking about differences!). The key word in all this, missed by many here, is
becoming (for details one must study Hegel and his predecessors, like Fichte but also heirs, like Marx and co. [mind, one could start with Aristotle and his dunamis => poiesis => energeia process])!
Animals are seriously limited (compared to every crucial respect that is defining Humanity). Even if you take Animal Kingdom as one huge body and pile up all their collective capabilities and anthropomorphise them significantly - something LBJ loves doing (which is ridiculous to the bone!) - right there is your essential difference and limitation of 'Kingdom of necessity' versus 'Empire of Freedom', as it were (to use some old ways of expressing the same idea).
In effect, what one is doing here is one is pondering Human Nature versus Animal Nature (pile them all up together or not). I have already mentioned many a characteristic that maketh a Human, whereas Animals do not have such potential and hence their reality is seriously limited to being at one with their environment/habitat - which becomes a serious (to the point of extinction) problem, once that (natural cycle) is disturbed (by other natural phenomena or us, our activity). That is, as opposed to us who continually must keep producing our environment for ourselves, in a variety of ways.
The major one, of course (in spite of beavers and bees
), is our potential to foresee the consequences of our actions, not just from today to tomorrow or even for a season or two but for many generations down the line. And we have to, given our capacities/power today...
Of course, for all those searching for absolute certainties, this will be a huge disappointment, as with all things Human - there are none to be had! There is only our potential to Reason - but no guarantee! That depends on us, as (active, Modern) Subjects."
...or
#2195 #2236 etc.
So much for me "not saying anything", "not being serious", "not contributing", "not expressing myself properly" (the grammar bit is a real gem, Danny!) - well, on the basis of the evidence above... fuck you!!! Fuck your lies, whatever you were implying, fuck your attitude, your "fairness" (who the heck grew up in the UK here and who is from the Balkans - it is truly sad I have to teach you about the best traditions of the isles!!!), fuck your trials by proxy, fuck you!!!!
Btw, if I were to "encroach" into chemistry and its jargon, for instance, there would be an uproar. How dare you! You must study, qualify, blah-blah. Only in Philosophy this shit happens, where everybody "knows best", doesn't need to learn anything, regardless of any elementary consideration, a minimal self-insight and even a minute self-control... And none of you have any qualifications, not in the "philosophical tradition" I come from, anyway, none of you understand the context properly, have no clue where you got your notions from, heck most of you are arrogant one-liners, most frequently attacking the poster - so scared shitless are you of even trying to contribute - but you then bitch when I return the favour, as it were and insult you back similarly. Sad, sad souls!!!
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If you are - thank fook! I really don't need hysterical hypocrites trying to "engage me"... 
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