Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Album covers and bandcamp profile?
Is it even legal?
Is it even legal?
Is it wrong to use AI generated art for Bandcamp projects?
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Starry Wisdom
something being legal has no connection to whether it is right or wrong
legal things can be wrong - illegal things can be right
legal things can be wrong - illegal things can be right
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
IANAL but..
It is not illegal
It could be considered unethical as you are taking work away from artists
However unless your are making significant profit from your music there is no money to pay artists any how.
So perhaps hire an artist if you ever make any profit and for now just hate on capitalism and the gig economy.
It is not illegal
It could be considered unethical as you are taking work away from artists
However unless your are making significant profit from your music there is no money to pay artists any how.
So perhaps hire an artist if you ever make any profit and for now just hate on capitalism and the gig economy.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
exactly. I am in no position to hire artists. If i were that would be ideal. So that is the context from which I ask
I am not comfortable with ai replacing artists
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
what is the ethical position of using AI to generate art for album covers on Bandcamp
Aladdin
Well-Known Member
What does it matter? If you're creating it yourself...? It's still your work.. using an AI tool .. no?
Aladdin
Well-Known Member
I'll do one for free for you. If you like.
danski
"vibey"
This is the way forward.
Although, splash the cash, should there be any money made Karl Masks
You know it makes sense.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
Are you creating art when you get an artist to make it for you?
If the artist is a digital artist does this change things?
I'd say creating a prompt is not the same as making art.
The art bit if the art comes from the model the ai was trained on.
A machine is fundamental different from a personal but if they take the the exact same role do you need to consider them an equivalent?
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Sounds good. How about:
I'm using free art here, and it's not bad. But maybe you can come up with something better. The selection of content for free clip art is rather limited I find. Thanks
EDIT: actually a better header picture for the bandcamp profile would be more useful. As you can see the header is really basic
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
If any money be made. Certainly nowhere near what artists i've spoken to want (not that i begrudge it them)
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Right now all i can afford to care about is the presentation. If and when i become mega rich then I can hire real people and not skynet
No I don't think it's wrong. AI won't be able to do type faces though. You need a graphic designer for that.
Aladdin
Well-Known Member
Just checking..
This js what I am seeing.. is this correct?
Eta..I've had a listen and have an idea. Sent you a pm.
Great music!!
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Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
Or a different AI.
Do they exist? The problem with it I suppose, if it's hit or miss which AI generally is, you'd still need a graphic designer to say if it's right or not.
ohmyliver
poppin' like a cork
It's legal, but as far as I know you can't claim copyright on the images. Which might be problematic down the line.
eta ChatGPT: what the law says about who owns the copyright of AI-generated content
'Copyright law is based around a general principle that only content created by human beings can be protected.'
ohmyliver
poppin' like a cork
haha, was going to post something similar, but you got there first.
Aladdin
Well-Known Member
You could do it too.
You're great at computer art.
Much faster than me painting.
I did have a search for an idea and found this..which I think could transfer to a painting very nicely..obviously only taking an idea..not necessarily copying.
You might do it much quicker.
You definitely can't generate a trademark/logo and claim any kind of exclusive rights.
As for an album cover, if you're a small outfit on bandcamp I don't forsee any issues whatsoever. If you're a famous band earning megabucks then you wouldn't be employing AI for these tasks anyway.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
I mean to an extent there are ones that do styled text. I've used adobe's one a bit.
And if the client can pick directly from the AI I can see a lot feeling like they don't need the middle man.
Plus however good they are now they will only be getting better.
Well one aspect is picking the correct font. The AI isn't going to know without you telling it which the correct font is. The same could be said for colour.
And then how the text is balanced with the image to give the correct weighting. The AI would somehow need to analyze the image to come up with that. And I don't think we're there yet. Midjourney produces some amazing images but the AI doesn't even know what it has created. That would be the next really good breakthrough. Being able to remove elements and have consistency across similar images.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
Well then what even is correct?* And can an end user pick a correct from a list of options?
Plus I do think all that stuff is probably cliser to months away rather than years away based on how quickly the text stuff is evolving.
*rhetorical question really. I know the basics of graphic design. Just saying not everyone would consider the rules important when using an AI tool.
Plus I do think all that stuff is probably cliser to months away rather than years away based on how quickly the text stuff is evolving.
*rhetorical question really. I know the basics of graphic design. Just saying not everyone would consider the rules important when using an AI tool.
My mate designs book covers for mostly self publishing writers for kindle. He now uses AI art instead of whatever he could get from a shutterstock subscription. I think he accepts that he'll probably be removed by AI at some point. But then, he's probably cheaper than someone having to take out a midjourney subscription plus a graphic design one for a solitary cover so he's probably ok. AI isn't free.
Shippou-Sensei
4:1:2.5
Fez909
toilet expert
Check the latest chat gpt - it has images now and can reflect on what it created and iterate on it towards a better fit for the prompt/theme etc.
Haha, I couldn't answer that. He's being doing it for over a decade so obviously not originally. He doesn't care about the content of the books tbh, he just sells covers to folk who dream of being a successful author.
I will do. The one thing I think Midjourney is missing is themes. If I have a character in a plot I want them to look the same in different situations or it doesn't make sense. Which limits narratives somewhat.
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