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Pkay, its 6am, so forgive the mistakes to follow >
just been talking with a mate of mine whose into history who says that Cameron is not upperclass. He says the real upper class (aristocracy + hangers on) are increasingly marginalised and people like Blair and Cameron are middle class types who have been able to rise to power.
his basic point is that the middle classes have never had so much power (in britain), and have infiltrated the upper classes like never before.
Something else he pointed out is that the whole yacht-gate bollocks is about foreign commoners (aka Russian oligarchs) having an ever-increasing influence on british politics - pissing off the 'true' upperclass no end (as it happens, Thatcher opened up the door for this eventuality).
Are we in the midst of some upper class v upper-middle class revolution? Or is it just the same old bollocks? I'm tempted to think its the same old bollocks - but maybe there is something of interest happening in post-thatcher britain, in regards to an erosion of the grip of the 'pure' upper classes.
its easy to reduce it to archetype class war bulk groupings, but i wonder if something more subtle is going on... [for the record i drunkenly argued my mate was talking bollocks, but maybe he was on to something...] wdurekon?
just been talking with a mate of mine whose into history who says that Cameron is not upperclass. He says the real upper class (aristocracy + hangers on) are increasingly marginalised and people like Blair and Cameron are middle class types who have been able to rise to power.
his basic point is that the middle classes have never had so much power (in britain), and have infiltrated the upper classes like never before.
Something else he pointed out is that the whole yacht-gate bollocks is about foreign commoners (aka Russian oligarchs) having an ever-increasing influence on british politics - pissing off the 'true' upperclass no end (as it happens, Thatcher opened up the door for this eventuality).
Are we in the midst of some upper class v upper-middle class revolution? Or is it just the same old bollocks? I'm tempted to think its the same old bollocks - but maybe there is something of interest happening in post-thatcher britain, in regards to an erosion of the grip of the 'pure' upper classes.
its easy to reduce it to archetype class war bulk groupings, but i wonder if something more subtle is going on... [for the record i drunkenly argued my mate was talking bollocks, but maybe he was on to something...] wdurekon?