SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I think it's fair to say the main reason people voted for brexit was not a desire to let more foreign folk into the UK.
Is Brexit actually going to happen?
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I think it's fair to say the main reason people voted for brexit was not a desire to let more foreign folk into the UK.
Raheem
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SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I do at least sympathise with redsquirrel on the general point that the EU in its current state is morally indefensible and if it was purely a matter of principle I would want to leave based on that. I don't want to be in any club that has Viktor Orban as a member.
toblerone3
Grrrrr
There have been many refugee camps set up around the world since the 1950s some funded by aid agencies and the United Nations, some funded by nations.
What suggestion are you suggesting that I made ??
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the EU is neither an aid agency nor the un nor a nation.
toblerone3
Grrrrr
Ironic then that many right wing Brexiteers are big admirers of Viktor Orban. Look at the comments on this article for example.
Orbán's ‘barbed wire' policy was VICTORY in ‘fight for soul of Europe’ - and Merkel DEFEAT
toblerone3
Grrrrr
Indeed.
magneze
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redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
And again, deliberate blindness. I don't want the EU to be anti-immigrant so it can't be. Just like Obama talking money from wall street can't be wrong because he's Obama.
The one made in #7822.
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Yossarian
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EU Referendum 2
Britain is prepared to exit the European Union under the terms and conditions listed above.
1) Well, we're just going to have to make the best of it, aren't we?
2) Honestly, what in heaven's name where they thinking?
3) Typical.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Well that's the problem with trying to act on principle. Cunts to the left of me, arseholes to the right.
toblerone3
Grrrrr
If you are arguing that a reason to leave the EU is that organisation's hostile immigration policy, but you believe that Britain would have a more hostile immigration policy outside the EU (a hope/belief that most people who voted for Brexit held), then your argument doesn't make sense.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Whatever it is, I'm against it.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Don't you ever get tired of being so dishonest, no body has made any such argument.
You can have voted Leave, Remain or neither without overlooking the vile actions of the EU.
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pocketscience
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You made a blatant non sequitur. Choosing not to be in a union of nations that make decisions you disagree with has nothing to do with the fact that the government of your own nation could independently make similar decisions.
The difference is, in a time when the far(-ish) left has once again become relevant in the UK, nations across the Eu are making a massive swing to the far right - so from a left wing point of view, those UK decisions are far more likely to become favourable for your average U75 bear,than any Viktor supporting kipper.
it's a once in a century chance and the stars are aligned. It just takes some bottle. The shower of shit doing the negotiations are irrelevant.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Are you sure about that?
Here I am, stuck in the middle with EU...
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
sleaterkinney
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gosub
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I'm one of their 70%, but it doesn't mean I've changed my mind. Who I don't understand are the 5% Remainers who think its going well..what were they expecting when they voted, End of Days?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
we actually did this one, you and me, some time ago (6 months maybe). Like most on the remain left you pin all sorts of your own 'I want them to think this' onto left leaver- and we did discuss this, you politely discussed this so why is it getting a second airing? Are you hoping for a bite from different fish?
My fave 'left leavers think x so I shall tilt at that' so far has been one where lexiters were motivated to vote out in order to get the housing market crashing. Because house prices are first and foremost in my mind I can tell you lol
We did indeed, fair shout, and - well the discussion be me and you, always civilised - I guess I’m feeling exasperated.
:-/
Tory-owned YouGov gives theTories a 7-point lead in their latest poll, while Survation has an entirely different result:
CON 41% (nc)
LAB 40% (nc)
LDEM 9% (+1)
GRN 2% (nc)
UKIP 2% (-1)
YouGov on Twitter
Are these the same Polls that said
Clinton would win
more people would vote to remain in EU vote
Corbyn would be in No 10
I bet they even say England will win the world cup
Ive never been asked or met anybody who has been asked by these so called people who run these polls
All propaganda depending on what your Politics are
Ie Fake and biased
Not sure why people bother putting them up means nothing
Clinton would win
more people would vote to remain in EU vote
Corbyn would be in No 10
I bet they even say England will win the world cup
Ive never been asked or met anybody who has been asked by these so called people who run these polls
All propaganda depending on what your Politics are
Ie Fake and biased
Not sure why people bother putting them up means nothing
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