Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)

[TomUS]

Feds leave Seattle:

Federal agents pull out of Seattle, mayor says

U.S. agents deployed to Seattle to protect federal property have left the city after local officials complained their presence was escalating tensions, Seattle's mayor said on Tuesday.

www.reuters.com

And in Portland:

Oregon Gov. Kate Brown announces ‘phased’ removal of federal officers from Portland

Federal officers will begin leaving the city on Thursday under a deal reached between Oregon officials and the Trump administration. State police will help protect Portland's federal courthouse.

www.opb.org

You have to wonder wtf the Feds think was accomplished with this bit of "reality theater."

They got lots of video for Trump campaign ads and lots of outraged talk on conservative media to fire up the base.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Sounds legit

Jailed Portland Protesters Must Agree to Stop Going to Protests to Be Freed

"I don't see that as constitutionally defensible, and I find it difficult to believe that any judge would uphold it," a First Amendment scholar said.

www.newsweek.com

It sounds extremely similar to what the cops do here - arrest people for bullshit which they are never going to pursue, and make it a condition of police bail that they don't attend protests. For the arrestee, there's no real benefit - it just delays the point at which the cops drop the charges, and if bail wasn't accepted they'd have to do that a lot quicker.

 

[Pickman's model]

It sounds extremely similar to what the cops do here - arrest people for bullshit which they are never going to pursue, and make it a condition of police bail that they don't attend protests. For the arrestee, there's no real benefit - it just delays the point at which the cops drop the charges, and if bail wasn't accepted they'd have to do that a lot quicker.

I'm not sure you can say no to police bail in the uk

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I'm not sure you can say no to police bail in the uk

I'm not sure either, but you could certainly breach the conditions.

 

[teqniq]

Remember when the police teargassed protestors outside of the White House pretty much so that Trump could have his photo opportunity clutching a bible?

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm not sure either, but you could certainly breach the conditions.

Can get you nicked but not I believe a crime

 

[editor]

Perfect

 

[NoXion]

As someone who doesn't know discipline and wants communism, I approve.

 

[two sheds]

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(pointless post)

 

[Shechemite]

Is this method of fighting back working? Who is benefiting? I think it's the Trump administration that is benefiting. Peaceful demonstrations are the most effective IMO.

Is this even true on an electoral level. Trump keeps losing support as this goes on AFAICS

 

[Shechemite]

Trump - or rather his humiliation - will be for the American right what 2016-2019 was for the British left. Not sure in what way though

 

[likesfish]

US navy seals deciding to chuck gasoline on the fire

Video Shows Navy Seal Dogs Attacking Colin Kaepernick Stand-In For Not Standing During National Anthem At Navy Seal Museum

The Navy Seal Museum is going to have answer some questions after a disturbing video surfaced on the Internet. On Sunday,journalist Billy Corben uncovered

brobible.com

K9 dog demonstration using a colin kaepernick stand in kneeling being attacked

 

[yield]

A protestor has been shot and killed in Austin. Car driven into the crowd, where it was quickly surrounded. Armed protestor (ie. he was open carrying an AR) approaches the vehicle among many others. Multiple shots fired (from different weapons by the sound of it) and the driver makes a getaway. Armed man dies at the scene.

Spoiler: YouTube

(nothing much to see, but the sounds are chilling enough)

Good writeup from WP

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/27/garrett-foster-protest-shooting-austin/

Army Sergeant Daniel Perry Identified as Garrett Foster's Killer
Attorney's statement says his client acted in self-defense
Fri. Jul. 31, 2020

Daniel Perry*, an off-duty U.S. Army sergeant working as a ride-hailing driver, has been confirmed to be the man who killed Garrett Foster on Congress Avenue on Saturday night, according to a statement issued by his attorneys.

 

[petee]

well well well

The NYPD Paid An Informant To Help A BLM Protester Charged With Sabotaging Police Van

“At best, Mr. Trapp is unsophisticated and easily susceptible,” his defense attorney, Ashley Burrell, said during his arraignment on Wednesday afternoon.

gothamist.com

 

[existentialist]

well well well

The NYPD Paid An Informant To Help A BLM Protester Charged With Sabotaging Police Van

“At best, Mr. Trapp is unsophisticated and easily susceptible,” his defense attorney, Ashley Burrell, said during his arraignment on Wednesday afternoon.

gothamist.com

I suppose it's unsurprising.

 

[Streathamite]

well well well

The NYPD Paid An Informant To Help A BLM Protester Charged With Sabotaging Police Van

“At best, Mr. Trapp is unsophisticated and easily susceptible,” his defense attorney, Ashley Burrell, said during his arraignment on Wednesday afternoon.

gothamist.com

onl,y a matter of time, really

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

Fascist terrorist provocateur exposed in Portland.

 

[LDC]

Fascist terrorist provocateur exposed in Portland.

Ex-SEAL by all accounts from that Twitter. Not sure provovateur fits his MO, but a right wing terrorist.

 

[Jeremiah18.17]

Seems that the Portland pipe bombs suspect has some “Very interesting” connections.......

 

[LDC]

There's been a whole load of recent, erm... 'issues' with various SEAL units, and there have been some calls for them to be disbanded. Oh, and when I say 'issues', I meant including war crimes.

 

[CNT36]

There's been a whole load of recent, erm... 'issues' with various SEAL units, and there have been some calls for them to be disbanded. Oh, and when I say 'issues', I meant including war crimes.

The best known of which is probably Seal Team 6 who killed Bin Laden.

 

[NoXion]

Folks are still being pulled off the streets by dudes in civvies and unmarked vans.

 

[magneze]

That's fucked up.

 

[Streathamite]

Folks are still being pulled off the streets by dudes in civvies and unmarked vans.

So it's now spread to Pennsylvania. This will really inflame things. Bloody scum pigs.

 

[Streathamite]

Folks are still being pulled off the streets by dudes in civvies and unmarked vans.

I can still scarcely believe that. America, you are now a police state.

 

[krtek a houby]

I can still scarcely believe that. America, you are now a police state.

"Now"?

 

[Streathamite]

"Now"?

Yes. It may seem it's always been that way, but it hasn't, not to this scale.
There has been widespread police brutality, racism, corruption and general pib-shittiness in America for a very long time, but there's also been the pushbacks of constituional protections, lots of people willing to both fight for and use those rights...and consequently a degree of State mindfulness of just how far they can go. And of course, there is a huge variance in how these 3 factors manifest themselves, from State to State and area to area.
Those protections and that willingness are still there - and in a true police state, there are not lawsuits constantly raining down like hailstones on police and other state bodies all the time - but that last, the restraints now seem completely absent. There are now, it seems, absolutely no limits whatsoever

 

[scifisam]

A friend of mine in Portland - one of the gentlest people you could ever imagine - went to a tiny protest in downtown yesterday and was maced by some Trump supporters while she tried to move back and away from trouble. According to her, the police just sat in their cars and watched.

 

[Oneeyedjarvis]

I can't help but suspect that the demonstrations have been hijacked by a crowd whose intention is to subvert the protests and use agent provocateurs to use the BLM movement as an excuse to impose even more authoritarian rule.
The one thing that really opened my eyes was when the President Lincoln statue was vandalised. No BLM demonstrator would have done that, it could only have been carried out as an attempt to discredit, remember the Zinoviev letter?
In a way they can't win, the whole thing was probably hijacked from the start.

 

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