Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)

[bimble]

Defunding the police is actually happening.

Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, City Officials Cutting $100 Million-$150 Million From LAPD Budget, Funds To Be Reinvested In Communities Of Color

As he began to speak about reforming the LAPD during his Wednesday evening press conference, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti called this an “urgent moment” for the city, “an inflection point.” He said he is “committed to making this moment not just a moment.” Garcetti said he would be making...

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[bimble]

The actual whitehouse is now tweeting disinformation about bricks.
they’ve now deleted it but wtf.

 

[Rebelda]

Anyone referring to 'professional anarchists' has truly never met one <3 (said with love)

 

[Pickman's model]

Defunding the police is actually happening.

Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, City Officials Cutting $100 Million-$150 Million From LAPD Budget, Funds To Be Reinvested In Communities Of Color

As he began to speak about reforming the LAPD during his Wednesday evening press conference, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti called this an “urgent moment” for the city, “an inflection point.” He said he is “committed to making this moment not just a moment.” Garcetti said he would be making...

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It's being proposed. Let's revisit this when it is actually happening, after the vote

 

[NoXion]

Anyone referring to 'professional anarchists' has truly never met one <3 (said with love)

I once came across someone on another forum who referred to "professional protestors". When I asked what exactly they meant by that, apparently it was because they had brought some stuff with them (signs etc) which they were preparing in anticipation of the event. I think it was during the Occupy protests, but I can't recall precisely.

That's all you need to be a "professional protestor", so it seems. You just need to think ahead and prepare.

By that logic, I'm a "professional gamer".

 

[Pickman's model]

I once came across someone on another forum who referred to "professional protestors". When I asked what exactly they meant by that, apparently it was because they had brought some stuff with them (signs etc) which they were preparing in anticipation of the event. I think it was during the Occupy protests, but I can't recall precisely.

That's all you need to be a "professional protestor", so it seems. You just need to think ahead and prepare.

By that logic, I'm a "professional gamer".

One day trump may become a professional politician

 

[Yossarian]

The actual whitehouse is now tweeting disinformation about bricks.
they’ve now deleted it but wtf.

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Looks like some deep-cover antifa activists infiltrated city works crews to cunningly cover the pavement in stones that can be chiseled up and hurled at cops when the time comes.

 

[William of Walworth]

NYPD using fake taxi cabs to pick up people trying to get home from protests after curfew and then nicking them seems very, well, unreasonable.

THE NYPD IS DISGUISING AS TAXI DRIVERS AND TRICKING PROTESTERS THAT ARE TRYING TO GO HOME!!! SPREAD THIS AND BE SAFE

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Looks like bollocks again to me. Many police forces have disguised cars and the fact that this one has flashing lights on it and is stopped in the middle of the road, strongly suggest it’s not being used to trick protestors into asking for a cab ride home. The twitter poster has just made that bit up.
General rule of thumb : when a post is ALL CAPITALS and ends “SPREAD THIS!!!” ... don’t.

Dave C pretty much always puts up great links , but with this one, I agree with Spymaster -- really dubious story.

 

[phillm]

Anyone referring to 'professional anarchists' has truly never met one <3 (said with love)

Whar's the pay like I've got some time on my hands atm ?

 

[Shechemite]

Whar's the pay like I've got some time on my hands atm ?

How many babies can you eat in a minute?

 

[ska invita]

Defunding the police is actually happening.

Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, City Officials Cutting $100 Million-$150 Million From LAPD Budget, Funds To Be Reinvested In Communities Of Color

As he began to speak about reforming the LAPD during his Wednesday evening press conference, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti called this an “urgent moment” for the city, “an inflection point.” He said he is “committed to making this moment not just a moment.” Garcetti said he would be making...

deadline.com

according to the article the annual LAPD budget is $1,800,000,000
So it would now be somewhere around $1,650,000,000
I think calling that "defunding" is a bit of a stretch
also the article suggests it may yet still be spent on policing, but on mentoring programs
-very much a moment of pretend to do something to take the heat out of this

 

[Jeff Robinson]

 

[Pickman's model]

don't know what i'm more surprised by, trump on 42%, biden on 46% or burning down the police station on 54%

 

[ska invita]

NYPD budget is $6,000,000,000
Unbelievable

 

[Spymaster]

The survey doesn't show that 54% supported the burning at all. The title is misleading.

17% supported the burning and 37% said it was "partially justified". "Partially justified" is not supporting the burning. It means they're also partly against it. Newsweek has taken "partially justified" as "fully justified". Nonsense. You'd need to find out what the questions asked were and what the other response options were.

You could equally add the "partially justified" vote to the "unjustified" one to get the opposite result.

 

[phillm]

How many babies can you eat in a minute?

Jelly ones I wouldn't like to say but probably far too many and I like the black ones the best (not sure about the last comment but it came into my head).

 

[killer b]

The survey doesn't show that 54% supported the burning at all. The title is misleading.

17% supported the burning and 37% said it was "partially justified". "Partially justified" is not supporting the burning. It means they're also partly against it. Newsweek has taken "partially justified" as "fully justified". Nonsense. You'd need to find out what the questions asked were and what the other response options were.

You could equally add the "partially justified" vote to the "unjustified" one to get the opposite result.

I think it's a joke tbf.

 

[killer b]

That said, Minneapolis Police Station in flames should take a run at the presidency in november, it's got a good chance of winning.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Here's the actual Monmouth University report on the survey.

Only 17% of the public says that the actions of protestors, including the burning of a police precinct, sparked by the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police are fully justified, but another 37% say they are partially justified. On the other hand, 38% say these actions are not at all justified. At the same time, a majority of the American public (57%) says that the anger that led to these protests is fully justified. Another 21% say it is partially justified and only 18% say it is not at all justified.

A big shift in public opinion about how blacks are badly treated by the police...

A majority of Americans (57%) say that police officers facing a difficult or dangerous situation are more likely to use excessive force if the culprit is black, compared to one-third (33%) who say the police are just as likely to use excessive force against black and white culprits in the same type of situation. The current findings represent a marked change in public opinion from prior polls. In a poll of registered voters taken after the police shooting of Alton Sterling in Louisiana in July 2016, just 34% said blacks were more likely to be subject to excessive force while 52% said they were just as likely as whites. In December 2014, after a grand jury declined to indict a New York City police officer in the chokehold death of Eric Garner, the results were 33% more likely and 58% just as likely.

Protestors’ Anger Justified Even If Actions May Not Be | Monmouth University Polling Institute

Most say police more likely to use excessive force on black individuals

www.monmouth.edu

 

[Spymaster]

Here's the actual Monmouth University report on the survey.



A big shift in public opinion about how blacks are badly treated by the police...

Protestors’ Anger Justified Even If Actions May Not Be | Monmouth University Polling Institute

Most say police more likely to use excessive force on black individuals

www.monmouth.edu

So Newsweek have completely misrepresented the survey.

Monmouth don't mention 54% anywhere.

 

[cupid_stunt]

So Newsweek have completely misrepresented the survey.

Well, yeah, but still a fun headline.

 

[Pickman's model]

NYPD budget is $6,000,000,000
Unbelievable

for comparison the met police get £3.24bn p/a, which is about $4.1bn

 

[Spymaster]

Well, yeah, but still a fun headline.

Perhaps, but there's more bollocks flying around about this subject than any I can remember which is annoying, especially when it's reproduced here. It brings into question the credibility of everything else and the first thing you now have to do with anything that gets posted is fact check it.

Normally meticulous posters are sticking up all sorts of shit.

 

[killer b]

I think '54% support the protests' based on that poll is probably as true thing to say as 'donald trump has 42% approval rating' or whatever - there's a lot of different opinions contained in both those figures.

 

[maomao]

for comparison the met police get £3.24bn p/a, which is about $4.1bn

NY has just over twice as many inhabitants as London (18.8 million to 9.3) so it's actually about a third less dosh per person policed.

 

[DaveCinzano]

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Dave C pretty much always puts up great links , but with this one, I agree with Spymaster -- really dubious story.

I guess you didn't take much notice of my comment, or didn't read the actual thread then?

The original tweet quickly attracted replies noting, as did Spy, that it was rather unlikely that the police would need to employ a Q-car in the way the OT suggested.

 

[Pickman's model]

NY has just over twice as many inhabitants as London (18.8 million to 9.3) so it's actually about a third less dosh per person policed.

they have 9624 police cars!

 

[Spymaster]

I think '54% support the protests' based on that poll is probably as true thing to say as 'donald trump has 42% approval rating' or whatever - there's a lot of different opinions contained in both those figures.

That's not what Newsweek are saying though. They're saying that 54% support the burning down of the police station, which is totally false.

 

[planetgeli]

Perhaps, but there's more bollocks flying around about this subject than any I can remember which is annoying, especially when it's reproduced here. It brings into question the credibility of everything else and the first thing you now have to do with anything that gets posted is fact check it.

Normally meticulous posters are sticking up all sorts of shit.

I don't think I've seen Twitter dominate a news event so much as this one, not on here. Which is leading to seeing some really powerful video - and an awful lot of fake shit, often repeated again and again. I too wish people would check their Twitter posts a bit more carefully before bunging them straight on here.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Whar's the pay like I've got some time on my hands atm ?

All the professional anarchists around here have been furloughed