Is America burning? (Black Lives Matter protests, civil unrest and riots 2020)

[gosub]

A mate of mine says on facebook that under Minnesota law, Chauvin will have to serve two thirds of his sentence (15 years) and he will be eligible for supervised release for the remaining seven and a half years.

I don't think he will be alive in 15 years

 

[BillRiver]

I don't think he will be alive in 15 years

Really?

I do.

I think the prison guards, and other fellow racists, will support and protect him.

There are a lot more violent racists in the US prison system than there are violent anti-racists.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

 

[BillRiver]

A friend just sent me this:

 

[hitmouse]

In case anyone feels able to donate/fancies sharing it about wherever:

Donate to David Elmakayes, BLM defendant, Needs $ For Lawyer, organized by Mongoose Distro

David Elmakayes, who is being charged because of his participation … Mongoose Distro needs your support for David Elmakayes, BLM defendant, Needs $ For Lawyer

www.gofundme.com

David Elmakayes, who is being charged for his participation in last summer's George Floyd uprisings in Philadelphia, needs money to hire a new attorney. Currently, his public defender is trying to get him to snitch on other defendants to benefit his own case and David wants no part of it.


David is being charged for:

-Maliciously damaging property used in interstate commerce by means of explosive (1 count)

-Carrying explosives during the commision of a felony (1 count)

-Possession of a firearm by a felon (1 count)

You can also write David at:

David Elmakayes 77782-066
FDC Philadelphia
PO Box 562
Philadelphia, PA 19105

 

[spring-peeper]

White supremacist marchers 'ran away' from Philly residents, police say

Members of a white supremacist group marching through Philadelphia on Saturday evening "ran away" from city residents who confronted them, according to police.

www.yahoo.com

"They started engaging with citizens of Philadelphia, who were none too happy about what they were saying.

These males felt threatened, and at one point, somebody threw a smoke bomb to cover their retreat, and they literally ran away from the people of Philadelphia," Philadelphia Police Officer Michael Crum told reporters.

 

[hitmouse]

White supremacist marchers 'ran away' from Philly residents, police say

Members of a white supremacist group marching through Philadelphia on Saturday evening "ran away" from city residents who confronted them, according to police.

www.yahoo.com

Great set of photos here:

White Supremacists March in Philadelphia on the Eve of July 4th

The group was met with opposition from bystanders and counterprotesters.

www.inquirer.com

How it started:


But then:


And then:



And then:

 

[hitmouse]

Oh, there's video as well:

 

[hitmouse]

Someone set it to the Benny Hill music:

 

[Dogsauce]

Bet there’s a load of serving cops under those masks.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Well I learned some thing new. I didn't realize that there were African American sovereign citizen's groups. I thought it was purely a white supremacist thing:

Massachusetts state police said 11 people who were arrested following an hours-long armed standoff that partially shut down Interstate 95 on Saturday claimed membership of the group Rise of the Moors, which police said calls itself a militia and follows “sovereign citizens” ideology.
Police said the group claims to adhere to “Moorish Sovereign Ideology”.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors extremist groups in the US, says the Moorish sovereign citizen movement is a collection of independent organizations and individuals that emerged in the 1990s as an offshoot of the antigovernment sovereign citizens’ movement.

People in the movement believe individual citizens hold sovereignty over, and are independent of, federal and state governments.

The standoff began early on Saturday when a trooper stopped to offer assistance to vehicles on the side of the highway in the town of Wakefield. Police later said the group was refueling.

The trooper called for backup and most of the group went into nearby woods until they surrendered to a police tactical team just after 10am. The standoff closed I-95 during the busy holiday weekend and some residents were told to shelter in place. The group told police they traveling from Rhode Island to Maine for “training”. None of the men, who were dressed in military fatigues and body armor, had a license to carry firearms in Massachusetts.

Massachusetts I-95 standoff was with Rise of the Moors militia, police say

‘Sovereign citizens’ charged with firearms offenses after troopers recover AR-15s, pistols and other weapons

www.theguardian.com

This is the part that I found interesting:

“I find it very ironic … that the Moorish sovereign citizen movement is so large and active, they actually repeat many theories that were actually cooked up, again many years ago, by white supremacists,” he said.

I suppose "turnabout is fair play"?

 

[hitmouse]

Well I learned some thing new. I didn't realize that there were African American sovereign citizen's groups. I thought it was purely a white supremacist thing:



The group told police they traveling from Rhode Island to Maine for “training”. None of the men, who were dressed in military fatigues and body armor, had a license to carry firearms in Massachusetts.

Massachusetts I-95 standoff was with Rise of the Moors militia, police say

‘Sovereign citizens’ charged with firearms offenses after troopers recover AR-15s, pistols and other weapons

www.theguardian.com

This is the part that I found interesting:



I suppose "turnabout is fair play"?

A few years back, there was a bit of a split within the militia movement between those who were anti-BLM and a minority who saw it as being about defending citizens against government tyranny or whatever:

The Oath Keeper Who Wants to Arm Black Lives Matter

Sam Andrews’ plan to carry guns with black protesters caused a political standoff with the country’s most prominent militia group

www.rollingstone.com

At least some of the Bundy family took pro-BLM stands as well, although that one's harder to google cos of BLM also standing for Bureau of Land Management, who they definitely hate:

Ammon Bundy Comes Out in Support of BLM, Calls to Defund the Police

Ammon Bundy, an anti-government activist who lead the 41-day armed takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge back in 2016, expressed support for the Black Lives Matter movement and for defunding the police in a recent Facebook video. He said in the video that he had considered attending...

news.yahoo.com

 

[tony.c]

Every day I see something that makes me more scared about what is happening in the US.

Black activist threatened with lynching in rural Indiana

We've been speaking to one African-American man about the very ordinary, everyday racist attack he faced.

www.channel4.com

The black guy, Vauhxx Booker, has now been charged with misdemeanour trespass and felony battery.

Civil rights activist faces charges after reporting racist attack in Indiana

Vauhxx Booker condemns ‘retaliation’ after he reported that white men assaulted him and threatened to ‘get a noose’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Teaboy]

So that big ass statue of old Booby Lee has finally been taken down in Richmond, Virginia.

Robert E Lee statue: Virginia removes contentious memorial as crowds cheer

The statue became a focal point for the protests following the death of George Floyd last spring.

www.bbc.co.uk

Fun fact about Robert E Lee. He was approached to become the first leader of the KKK but ultimately declined as he thought it might violate the terms of his parole. This kind of suggests he would have been up for it otherwise.

What's that line about judging a person by the friends they keep...

 

[AmateurAgitator]

To think that a women lost her life over a fucking statue. Truly insane.

 

[Teaboy]

To think that a women lost her life over a fucking statue. Truly insane.

People losing their lives for insane reasons is something that seemed to happen a lot when General Lee was involved. Even 130 years after his death.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Well I learned some thing new. I didn't realize that there were African American sovereign citizen's groups. I thought it was purely a white supremacist thing:

Massachusetts I-95 standoff was with Rise of the Moors militia, police say

‘Sovereign citizens’ charged with firearms offenses after troopers recover AR-15s, pistols and other weapons

www.theguardian.com

This is the part that I found interesting:



I suppose "turnabout is fair play"?

This reminds me of how Black Hebrew Israelites adopted and adapted the beliefs of British Israelism. Both groups as nutty as squirrel poop.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

This reminds me of how Black Hebrew Israelites adopted and adapted the beliefs of British Israelism. Both groups as nutty as squirrel poop.

That interesting. Its funny how people come across ideas that are obviously false, yet they cling onto them. I think for some its the appeal to a stable identity that a group like that supports.

 

[teqniq]

I'm amazed he was acquitted and unsurprised with the police.,

Attorney for man cleared of returning fire in self-defense at Minneapolis police during riots releases evidence, body camera footage

Jaleel Stallings was acquitted of eight counts in connection with the incident.

www.startribune.com

 

[spitfire]

Jesus shitting Christ what the fuck is this all about?

(Racism obvs but fucking hell)

 

[petee]

to show how rightwingers have exploited all this.
yes its loony but tens of millions of americans have fallen right in behind it.

Fox News contributor Lara Trump, daughter-in-law of former President Donald Trump, on Thursday claimed that "entire cities" were "destroyed" during racial justice protests in 2020.

Fox News' Lara Trump claims 'entire cities' were 'destroyed' in 2020

The gang at Fox News would rather the Justice Department focus on last year's protests than the current attacks on school board officials as they try to enforce COVID rules.

americanindependent.com

 

[AmateurAgitator]

to show how rightwingers have exploited all this.
yes its loony but tens of millions of americans have fallen right in behind it.

Fox News contributor Lara Trump, daughter-in-law of former President Donald Trump, on Thursday claimed that "entire cities" were "destroyed" during racial justice protests in 2020.

Fox News' Lara Trump claims 'entire cities' were 'destroyed' in 2020

The gang at Fox News would rather the Justice Department focus on last year's protests than the current attacks on school board officials as they try to enforce COVID rules.

americanindependent.com

 

[spring-peeper]

Black flag: Understanding the Trumpists' latest threatening symbol

Trump zealots have begun flying black U.S. flags, which signal no quarter for enemies. It's a threat of violence

www.salon.com

It didn't take long to find hundreds of videos where these Trumpers and so-called patriots were hanging black American flags. ...

Black American flags are the flags that mean "no quarter shall be given." They are the opposite of the white flag of surrender.

According to the people on TikTok and the Sun (British tabloid), the black American flag originated in the civil war and was flown by the Confederates.

It means that they will not surrender, will not take prisoners, and are willing to die for their cause. It means they will execute their enemies.

Who are their enemies? Pretty much any non-Conservative. You know, Democrats, Liberals, LGBTQ, BIPOC, and the vaccinated. ...

So, we're the enemy, and they're openly professing to want to execute us. … So, why are they doing this

Covid vaccinations, mostly. They believe that Joe Biden has declared a civil war on them by mandating that employers with over 100 employees and the military have vaccinations.

Yes, they say civil war, and they say it's already started. But, unfortunately, many of them also live in states where masks and vaccines are required by state governments, healthcare, and law enforcement.

An alarming number of military members have been making Tik Toks talking about how they are being discharged because they refuse the vaccine. It's alarming because there is probably an equal number of guys on there talking about the civil war plans and actively using Tik Tok to recruit these military and ex-military members.

The biggest message they have been sending out is, "it's time" or "the time is now." ...

Although showing guns on Tik Tok is supposed to be against community guidelines, they show lots of videos of their guns, shooting them, wearing them, or sitting on their bed.

They primarily use Tik Tok as a recruiting tool and let others know their willingness to commit violence. Then they tell people to message them or where to find them on Telegram.

It is time for the American Christian church to come out of the shadows to say, "No longer are we going to allow our culture to be determined by people who hate the things that we believe in…. We are going to stand valiantly for God's incredible inherent truths that predate any version of government.

Because, my friends, if we lose this country today, if we bend the knee to the Democrats today, our country will be lost forever, our children will never know what freedom is. It's our duty to stand up, Let us stand united as men and women of faith to fight for our country.

I have outlined two major emotional drives: narcissistic symbiosis and shared psychosis. Narcissistic symbiosis refers to the developmental wounds that make the leader-follower relationship magnetically attractive. The leader, hungry for adulation to compensate for an inner lack of self-worth, projects grandiose omnipotence — while the followers, rendered needy by societal stress or developmental injury, yearn for a parental figure. When such wounded individuals are given positions of power, they arouse similar pathology in the population that creates a "lock and key" relationship….

"Shared psychosis" — which is also called "folie à millions" ["madness for millions"] when occurring at the national level or "induced delusions" — refers to the infectiousness of severe symptoms that goes beyond ordinary group psychology. When a highly symptomatic individual is placed in an influential position, the person's symptoms can spread through the population through emotional bonds, heightening existing pathologies and inducing delusions, paranoia and propensity for violence — even in previously healthy individuals. The treatment is removal of exposure.

 

[Orang Utan]

Black flag: Understanding the Trumpists' latest threatening symbol

Trump zealots have begun flying black U.S. flags, which signal no quarter for enemies. It's a threat of violence

www.salon.com

Good people on both sides, ey?

 

[spring-peeper]

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Bill Maher is dire. Just fucking awful

Dire dumbfuck takes on pretty much everything and thoroughly shite politics.

He's also a 'vaccine sceptic'.

You should be ashamed.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Bill Maher is dire. Just fucking awful

Dire dumbfuck takes on pretty much everything and thoroughly shite politics.

He's also a 'vaccine sceptic'.

You should be ashamed.

I don't know why anyone thinks he "a liberal" any more, assuming he ever was one.

 

[spring-peeper]

I don't know why anyone thinks he "a liberal" any more, assuming he ever was one.

Tbh, I'm not really sure what a "liberal" is any more.

 

[kabbes]

Black flag: Understanding the Trumpists' latest threatening symbol

Trump zealots have begun flying black U.S. flags, which signal no quarter for enemies. It's a threat of violence

www.salon.com

"Shared psychosis" — which is also called "folie à millions" ["madness for millions"] when occurring at the national level or "induced delusions" — refers to the infectiousness of severe symptoms that goes beyond ordinary group psychology. When a highly symptomatic individual is placed in an influential position, the person's symptoms can spread through the population through emotional bonds, heightening existing pathologies and inducing delusions, paranoia and propensity for violence — even in previously healthy individuals. The treatment is removal of exposure.

That’s complete nonsense. It’s like something from the early 20th century. It conceptualises people as having no co-construction in their identities and behaviours, but just being some kind of passive victims of a transcendent “crowd pathology”. It flies in the face of the last 30 years of research on social identity.

 

[two sheds]

Not aware of the research, but how else do we explain the chanting of 'lock her up', 'stop the steal' and all the rest that Trump started and have been parroted so thoroughly by his supporters? Plus all the encouragement of violence that we're seeing from his far right support.

Surely the supporters can co-construct all that as part of their identities and behaviours without being seen as passive victims.