nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Horseshit is a lot more useful that the fetid bile that you seem to purvey on here.
"Fetid bile"? Fuck me, what a heavyweight wordsmith you are.
Btw, you never produced evidence of corruption- did you?
I actually hope the conservatives win the next Election.
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"Fetid bile"? Fuck me, what a heavyweight wordsmith you are.
Btw, you never produced evidence of corruption- did you?
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
"Fetid bile"? Fuck me, what a heavyweight wordsmith you are.
Btw, you never produced evidence of corruption- did you?
Jasper? That one has not ended yet.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
mysterybadger
Well-Known Member
like the poor Urbanite who put 400 quid on Ken to win ?
They're all in the top RH corner of the compass now.
I was going to ask where this came from but the "quote" button has brought up the url: http://www.politicalcompass.org/. Great site!
I think this demonstrates how focus group politics and the chasing of "key demographics" has led to the narrowing of choice in the political arena, and--as the site says--reduces the voting criteria to "managerial competence".
What's odd about this country is that while a plurality of the population seem to group around a centre-left-ish, mildly liberal viewpoint we never seem to be able to elect a govetment on that basis.
KeyboardJockey
Clowns to the Left of me
LOL!!! You are truly pathetic.
Maybe you'll think differently when the accountants have been through KL's books.
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
KeyboardJockey is a LOLtory
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Dillinger4
Es gibt Zeit
Massive egg.
ChrisC
If you think that the Tories will be better on Green issues, you have been conned by their propaganda. 'Vote Blue and get Green' was just a slogan they invented to pick up Green voters. Sadly Labour is not particularly green in practice, but don't believe the Tories, they just want your vote. The Tories don't care about ordinary people once they get elected; they represent the rich and powerful and that is all.
If you think that the Tories will be better on Green issues, you have been conned by their propaganda. 'Vote Blue and get Green' was just a slogan they invented to pick up Green voters. Sadly Labour is not particularly green in practice, but don't believe the Tories, they just want your vote. The Tories don't care about ordinary people once they get elected; they represent the rich and powerful and that is all.
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
There are actually prats seriously advocating Livingstone for Labour leader and PM...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
No there's aren't
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
Like how most of KL's supporters just reguruguate his own publicity? Yeah - loads of independant thought going on there...
No there's aren't
Its those mysterious cod-leftists that only posterlevel42 can see...
poster342002
PROPER leftwing socialist
it's not just tories - it's also leftwingers who refuse to suck KL's cock and go into waling-and-screaming morning at his losing of the mayoralty.
Pathetic behavior. Truly, utterly pathetic, immature and ludicrous.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
While the hate rags bleat constantly about the "PC liberal conspiracy" ...
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
ChrisC, you're not a UK resident are you? Why do you wish this upon us?
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
like the poor Urbanite who put 400 quid on Ken to win ?
They're all in the top RH corner of the compass now.
That's really quite depressing.
Could someone older/more politically knowledgeable than me hasten a guess to where 1992 Labour would have been?
urbanrevolt
New Member
an interesting two axis graph but I think communism would be in bottom left hand corner as most left and most libertarian- on th eother hand we're used to coming bottom and being left out (makes crap attempt at humour but hey at least I'm trying 
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
Communist, libertarian ? 
At best it's surely uber-utilitarian and voluntarily conformist ?
At best it's surely uber-utilitarian and voluntarily conformist ?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Been reading much Heinlein then chris?
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
arrgh!
this is a current pet subject...
people might *say* "there's no difference between N Labour and the Conservatives", and it might be true that Cameron seems to be very charming and electable, but...
But ffs!
Things would be so much worse under a tory government.
NuLab haven't solved the problems of the NHS or education, true - but can you imagine what a tory govt would do to them? or to benefits?
NuLab took us into iraq - a fucking travesty - but how far up america's arse do you reckon Cameron is going to climb?
That's without all the unapologetic cosying up to private business that is the raison d'etre of any tory govt...
this is a current pet subject...
people might *say* "there's no difference between N Labour and the Conservatives", and it might be true that Cameron seems to be very charming and electable, but...
But ffs!
Things would be so much worse under a tory government.
NuLab haven't solved the problems of the NHS or education, true - but can you imagine what a tory govt would do to them? or to benefits?
NuLab took us into iraq - a fucking travesty - but how far up america's arse do you reckon Cameron is going to climb?
That's without all the unapologetic cosying up to private business that is the raison d'etre of any tory govt...
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
an interesting two axis graph but I think communism would be in bottom left hand corner as most left and most libertarian- on th eother hand we're used to coming bottom and being left out (makes crap attempt at humour but hey at least I'm trying
Surely communism would be top left? I'm pretty sure that's were it's been shown to be on other political compasses.
According to the link the green party appear to come out very slightly more left than 1972 labour on the left to right scale.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
It would depend. What a lot of people would describe as 'proper' communism would be bottom left. Marxist-Leninist Communism like in the former USSR would be top left.
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
Problem is, that as Labour stay in with their current form, then there's very little chance they'll move back to the left. Of course it's still probably quite unlikely that they'll move back to the left if they do get voted out, but at least there might be more of a chance of a shake up in the party. I guess that shake up could always go in the other direction and make things worse though.arrgh!
this is a current pet subject...
people might *say* "there's no difference between N Labour and the Conservatives", and it might be true that Cameron seems to be very charming and electable, but...
But ffs!
Things would be so much worse under a tory government.
NuLab haven't solved the problems of the NHS or education, true - but can you imagine what a tory govt would do to them? or to benefits?
NuLab took us into iraq - a fucking travesty - but how far up america's arse do you reckon Cameron is going to climb?
That's without all the unapologetic cosying up to private business that is the raison d'etre of any tory govt...
p.s. thanks monkeygrinder's
rioted
redundant
Why? Because they don't care about the poor and New Labour do? Because they'll privatise stuff and New Labour haven't? Because they'll sell off peerages to the highest bidder and feather their rich mates' nests?
Why will it be "worse"?
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
Why? Because they don't care about the poor and New Labour do? Because they'll privatise stuff and New Labour haven't? Because they'll sell off peerages to the highest bidder and feather their rich mates' nests?
Why will it be "worse"?
because they will cut spending on public services.
as i said, in the bit of my post that you cut.
edit - to clarify. I didn't vote Labour at the last gen election and i can't imagine i will at the next. I'm just saying that the tories aren't the answer.
rioted
redundant
You work in education, don't you? Do you still think that just by throwing money at things (and the NHS) it makes it better? More money for consultants and private contractors, perhaps. More profits as a direct result of subsidies certainly. But us plebs? we won't see it, our managers will.
As it happens I think the education system was better under the tories. Crap, but better - kids were certainly happier.
Well I never voted for them, any of them, but it makes me smile when people try to get a rizla between the two.
audiotech
wav, aiff, mp3, ogg, flac
As it happens I think the education system was better under the tories. Crap, but better - kids were certainly happier.
Wasn't one of the many tory education ministers an idiot called Royston, who spoke like a brusque Yorkshireman and looked as though he'd stepped right out of the Dickens classic Oliver Twist?
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
You work in education, don't you? Do you still think that just by throwing money at things (and the NHS) it makes it better? More money for consultants and private contractors, perhaps. More profits as a direct result of subsidies certainly. But us plebs? we won't see it, our managers will.
As it happens I think the education system was better under the tories. Crap, but better - kids were certainly happier.
Well I never voted for them, any of them, but it makes me smile when people try to get a rizla between the two.
i think that many more of the right people are becoming teachers now that there is a subsidy to train, and a reasonable wage at the end of it.
I know that the numbers of schools actually falling down around the kids' ears has vastly reduced.
I trained and began teaching under the tories. All I can see is improvement - not perfection, but improvement.
Why do you think it was better under the tories? why do you think kids were happier? genuine qu.
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