HS2 high-speed London-Birmingham route rail project - discussion
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Is inflation a synonym for theft?
For this government yes
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
For the cost of this thing they could buy every adult in the country a Range Rover Sport.
Levelling up?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Love the accuracy there with the point seven on the end. As if that number won't go up ever again.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
I am revising my final figure to be close to £1/2tn.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Oh and £1/2tn for London-Brum only.
Who is gonna use this thing? I like beesonthewhatnow very much, but not enough to want to go to fucking Birmingham, but even if I did want to meet up I’d drive so I could lob a couple of mountain bikes in the car and we could go for a ride. Sod pissing about on trains and that.
Who is gonna use this thing? I like beesonthewhatnow very much, but not enough to want to go to fucking Birmingham, but even if I did want to meet up I’d drive so I could lob a couple of mountain bikes in the car and we could go for a ride. Sod pissing about on trains and that.
BigTom
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There's plenty of demand on the WCML. It'll be well used assuming it's not wildly more expensive than existing tickets (and imo politics will demand that it's not more expensive, in order that it gets used. In business terms the existing price is what the market will bear, 20minutes isn't worth paying that much more for).
BigTom
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If it went up to Manchester/Leeds the time savings would be significant enough to be worthwhile. Crewe probably too.
But to Birmingham it's about capacity only. iirc it'll take longer to get to London from Wolverhampton after HS2 because they won't be on the fast services anymore so you have to get a slow train to new street, then walk over to curzon street for HS2.
And think how many mechanics that would keep in work !
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
davesgcr
Reading books
Folks - trust me - I spent a good number of years as an Operations Manager on West Coast South and some more years on helping unpick some bad decisions on West Coast Upgrade post 1999. I have some knowledge therefore. Just a bit.
What was there pre -Covid was about as tight as achievable on the Worlds busiest mixed traffic railway. Repeat for emphasis.
I will not bore you with the comprises to get the older timetable in , but it took about 4 years of diplomacy , stress and compromises. It is just a bit more than quicker journeys to Brum.
What was there pre -Covid was about as tight as achievable on the Worlds busiest mixed traffic railway. Repeat for emphasis.
I will not bore you with the comprises to get the older timetable in , but it took about 4 years of diplomacy , stress and compromises. It is just a bit more than quicker journeys to Brum.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Replace all the first class carriages with standard = increased capacity = that'll be £85 million in consultancy fees please.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
One first class carriage only per train. Treble the price. Those daft enough to pay can still enjoy free coffee, the rest of us might have a chance of actually getting a seat.
davesgcr
Reading books
Sorry - no lucre there for you - the 11 car Pendolino sets had an extra standard class vehicle inserted , plus the latest refurb converts another 1st class to standard - leaving generally one and a half vehicles for 1st class (the original concept was for 4 1st class vehicles per train)
Of course - the original "idea" was for 3 classes on this and one Cross Country.....
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
That’s what it is now some days
That’s what it is now some days
the genius part is getting the 3rd class stander to pay for 2nd class tickets
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Which one was that?
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
No chance they’d stick it in a tunnel for you like they did for the wealthy Chiltern landowners who didn’t want their view of underwhelming countryside spoiled? Oh...
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
T & P
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Ah, you've reminded me of the sorely missed Bungle, who would vigorously defend the British practice of selling people overpriced long-distance train tickets that don't even guarantee them a seat for their journey, and might result on the hapless
Apparently this is perfectly alright and not something one should complain about.
cybershot
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Kingsbury. I know the M42 already goes through it but the amount of space either side of tracks & construction traffic. You only have to look at the mess around the NEC and also J9 of the M42. The amount of space they churning up is incredible.
Crispy
The following psytrance is baṉned: All
To be fair, the works at the NEC are for the Interchange station, and at J9 of the M42 is the 3-way junction to Manchester/London.
The line through Kingsbury Park is going to be on a viaduct so while it might be disruptive during construction, it'll have little effect in the long run
The line through Kingsbury Park is going to be on a viaduct so while it might be disruptive during construction, it'll have little effect in the long run
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