How is philosophical thought skewed by the characteristics of philosophers?

[i-am-your-idea]

Philosophical thought leans in the direction of the interests of philosophers.

Just like musical lyrics often contain thought particular to creative/musical/artistic people.

There must be areas of philosophy that have waaay more writing about them- just because they are enjoyed by people inclined towards philosophy.

So, on the 'flip side', what areas of philosophical thought are skimmed over, skewed or haven't been explored much- just because philosophers are not interested/don't want/are even scared of them?

 

[i-am-your-idea]

yeah, i dont know either!

but do you see what im saying?

 

[Aldebaran]

Philosophical thought is not defined by what one finds "interesting" but by the questions one poses. That has nothing to do with "interest" and all with reasoning independently thereof on a given moment at a given time and place.

salaam.

 

[Dillinger4]

Philosophical thought is not defined by what one finds "interesting" but by the questions one poses. That has nothing to do with "interest" and all with reasoning independently thereof on a given moment at a given time and place.

salaam.

 

[jbob]

You're asking what areas of philosophy haven't been covered by philosophers.

 

[Yossarian]

Seems kind of like asking how mathematics has been skewed by the characteristics of mathematicians...

 

[butchersapron]

There's no smoke without fire.

 

[Dillinger4]

You're asking what areas of philosophy haven't been covered by philosophers.

All the radical parts that only truly enlightened minds can deal with, like NOTHING EXISTS LOL and EVERYTHING IS NOTHING LOL

 

[i-am-your-idea]

All the radical parts that only truly enlightened minds can deal with, like NOTHING EXISTS LOL and EVERYTHING IS NOTHING LOL

philosophy does look at statements like this. lol.

 

[Santino]

philosophy does look at statements like this. lol.

It looks at them and thinks 'What a load of rubbish, let's do some proper work on philosophical logic that will result in computers and the internet an' shit being invented, or perhaps some epistemology that will undermine the tyrannical grip of the church on the minds of ordinary people.'

 

[butchersapron]

philosophy does look at statements like this. lol.

A few others too like.

 

[i-am-your-idea]

Philosophical thought is not defined by what one finds "interesting" but by the questions one poses. That has nothing to do with "interest" and all with reasoning independently thereof on a given moment at a given time and place.

salaam.

nothing is absolute. if philosophers are passionate/intruiged by an area of philosophy, they might be more likely to explore it.

if someone had NO interest subject, then they wont even think about it at all.

Does saying 'I'm not interested in this' - suggest that you have had enough interest in it to make this statement?

 

[Dillinger4]

It is truly amazing to see doublethink in action.

 

[Aldebaran]

All the radical parts that only truly enlightened minds can deal with, like NOTHING EXISTS LOL and EVERYTHING IS NOTHING LOL

In fact the opposite could be true: everything exists and everything is but it all resides beyond reach of the human perception.

salaam.

 

[i-am-your-idea]

It looks at them and thinks 'What a load of rubbish, let's do some proper work on philosophical logic that will result in computers and the internet an' shit being invented, or perhaps some epistemology that will undermine the tyrannical grip of the church on the minds of ordinary people.'

what is the philosophical thought behind this blind dismissal?

 

[Aldebaran]

nothing is absolute. if philosophers are passionate/intruiged by an area of philosophy, they might be more likely to explore it.

No. Only the student or the non-initiated possibly would fall in such a trap.

if someone had NO interest subject, then they wont even think about it at all.

Wrong. It doesn't take interest to recognize and hence pose questions.

Does saying 'I'm not interested in this' - suggest that you have had enough interest in it to make this statement?

??

salaam.

 

[Meltingpot]

I've just finished reading Ray Billington's "Living Philosophy" and in his final chapter he claims that philosophers (particularly moral philosophers) tend to mistrust experience, by which he means people's total experience of life.

 

[Santino]

what is the philosophical thought behind this blind dismissal?

That such phrases are literally meaningless, valueless and a waste of one's time.

 

[butchersapron]

Phil Dwyer put up the Gramsici quote about everyone being a philosopher (in the sense of everyone reacts to and reflects on their enviroment and adapts it and themselves in various ways in line with their individual or collective experiences and conculusions) on another thread recently. It seems to me that this is precisely what max and i-am need to understand instead of making philosophy this specialised area or domain that only the special people inhabit before they can move on from their current impasse. Stop worshipping the idea of thought and start thinking.

 

[Aldebaran]

I've just finished reading Ray Billington's "Living Philosophy" and in his final chapter he claims that philosophers (particularly moral philosophers) tend to mistrust experience, by which he means people's total experience of life.

You need first to separate experience from perception of experience because the latter inevitably changes from the very moment the experience takes place.

salaam.

 

[i-am-your-idea]

That such phrases are literally meaningless, valueless and a waste of one's time.

so what you are saying is that Philosophy dismisses these statements because they are a 'waste of time'?

Lots of people dismiss the whole subject because they think its a waste of time. Are they right too?

 

[i-am-your-idea]

Stop worshipping the idea of thought and start thinking.

sounds like a zen statement, to make your mind empty. what can you grasp at in response to such an command?

 

[butchersapron]

Fuck off

 

[i-am-your-idea]

Fuck off

i love you!

 

[Dillinger4]

so what you are saying is that Philosophy dismisses these statements because they are a 'waste of time'?

No, it would take them further than shit little word plays and shallow understanding of Asiatic philosophy.

 

[Aldebaran]

sounds like a zen statement, to make your mind empty.

No it isn't about "make your mind empty", it is about posing questions instead of talking about them being posed and those who posed them.

salaam.

 

[Dillinger4]

She asks the questions but is never ready to consider anything further.

 

[Aldebaran]

She asks the questions but is never ready to consider anything further.

Declaration of what springs to your mind hardly involves - let alone equates - questioning.

salaam.

 

[i-am-your-idea]

No it isn't about "make your mind empty", it is about posing questions instead of talking about them being posed and those who posed them.

salaam.

i was just saying that butchers quote 'Stop worshipping the idea of thought and start thinking.' sounded like a Kōan/zen statement, to me.

I wasn't saying that thats what Philosophy is about.

 

[Dillinger4]

Europeans never really understand Zen.