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I've just printed off a copy at work!

Fozzie Bear! You should come to the NxNE drinks at the Pembury next week!

I, er, might do that. :oops:

What day? Is there a thread about it somewhere?

Oh yeah - and let us know what you think of the Heckler! :)
 
As I understand it the Police had called for a Review of the Ship Agrounds licence with a view to closing it. But the licence holder voluntary surrendered the licence before the Review could be heard.

As for its future im not certain but I have heard rumours that a new owner of the building wants to apply for a licence to keep the ground floor as a pub.


Ive heard that the Ship Aground has been sold to a Sikh organisation. They plan to demolish it and build a Temple. Will need planning permission to do this.
 
Ive heard that the Ship Aground has been sold to a Sikh organisation. They plan to demolish it and build a Temple. Will need planning permission to do this.

a familiar scenario, the Swan, on upper clapton road was sold to a Jewish organisation, there is still a campaign to stop that conversion, not sure if the ship aground would attract much support tbf
 
Ive heard that the Ship Aground has been sold to a Sikh organisation. They plan to demolish it and build a Temple. Will need planning permission to do this.

there are very few Sikh temples in east london and the one in mile end got burnt out a while back (did it reopen?)
 
it seems like every pub that had mainly black customers is getting their licences revoked, the Fountain, then the Cricketers now the Ship Aground, i don't know about the ship aground but i never saw any of this "anti social activity" they always cite in the papers while i was living near the Cricketers or whenever i have been in since, there is something a bit dodgy about how they are closing. i wonder who the complaints are coming from etc
 
i never saw any of this "anti social activity" they always cite in the papers while i was living near the Cricketers or whenever i have been in since,

I've just recently moved but for the last five years I lived just by the Cricketers. Nothing ever bothered me greatly but there was a lot of very blatant drug dealing going on in the beer garden - this would probably be classed as anti-social behaviour.....
 
I've just recently moved but for the last five years I lived just by the Cricketers. Nothing ever bothered me greatly but there was a lot of very blatant drug dealing going on in the beer garden - this would probably be classed as anti-social behaviour.....
i've been frequenting the cricketers for 20 years and that's the kind of stupid comment from johnny-come-lately's that ended up making john and debbie move on from what was a cracking little neighbourhood pub, that put on lots on decent little musical events and had a real cross section of local people who drank in there.
 
it seems like every pub that had mainly black customers is getting their licences revoked, the Fountain, then the Cricketers now the Ship Aground, i don't know about the ship aground but i never saw any of this "anti social activity" they always cite in the papers while i was living near the Cricketers or whenever i have been in since, there is something a bit dodgy about how they are closing. i wonder who the complaints are coming from etc

The Police applied for a Review of the Ship Agrounds license with the intention of closing it down. But before the Review could be heard the Licensee surrendered his License. He didnt have to do this. He could have fought his case before the Licensing sub committee. And if he lost he could have appealed.

I dont know about the circumstances of the Fountains closure. The Review of the Cricketers was also called for by the Police.I can assure you that dozens of residents close to the Cricketers made statements to the Police in support of the closure of the Cricketers. The owners of the Cricketers can make an appeal to a Court to overturn the closure.
 
i think there are 2 cricketers pub here, the one on northwald road (which i was talking about) and one on cricketers road in clapton (which i assume your man was talking about). so apols to braindancer if he meant the latter and not the former (which didn't have a beer garden, let alone people dealing in it).
 
i think there are 2 cricketers pub here, the one on northwald road (which i was talking about) and one on cricketers road in clapton (which i assume your man was talking about). so apols to braindancer if he meant the latter and not the former (which didn't have a beer garden, let alone people dealing in it).

I think the pub your talking about is just by Stoke Newington Common. It was called the Cricketers but has been renamed as IIRC Jans.
 
i think there are 2 cricketers pub here, the one on northwald road (which i was talking about) and one on cricketers road in clapton (which i assume your man was talking about). so apols to braindancer if he meant the latter and not the former (which didn't have a beer garden, let alone people dealing in it).

I did indeed mean the latter :D
 
Thanks blossie, and Fozzie also, for your replies.

The shop is still there, I had a look on Saturday, it's called Mystic Fragrance and it's on Stoke Newington High St opposite St Paul's Church which is on the corner of Evering Road.

Just googled it, it's number 145b and there's info on various websites. I'm fairly sure they do have the spell candles in there.
 
The shop is still there, I had a look on Saturday, it's called Mystic Fragrance and it's on Stoke Newington High St opposite St Paul's Church which is on the corner of Evering Road.

Just googled it, it's number 145b and there's info on various websites. I'm fairly sure they do have the spell candles in there.

Ta very much, I will check it out.
 
The Police applied for a Review of the Ship Agrounds license with the intention of closing it down. But before the Review could be heard the Licensee surrendered his License. He didnt have to do this. He could have fought his case before the Licensing sub committee. And if he lost he could have appealed.

I dont know about the circumstances of the Fountains closure. The Review of the Cricketers was also called for by the Police.I can assure you that dozens of residents close to the Cricketers made statements to the Police in support of the closure of the Cricketers. The owners of the Cricketers can make an appeal to a Court to overturn the closure.

i'm sure residents did make complaints, i just wonder which residents and on what grounds. like if the police went round asking for opinions and a lot of the residents weren't customers at the pub i'm sure enough woudl say they wanted it closed down, just assuming that "bad stuff" was happening there wihtout ever actually having been. i mean what did the police raid turn up? was it anything that wouldn't be found at any number of pubs round there? if i was the owner of a pub that was constantly being targetted by police at some point i would give up. it is sad, but anyway they're gone now and i'm sure won't reopen.
 
I heard a rumour in the internets that father Teds/the jolly butcher was closing, it was still open yesterday so don't know whether it is or isn't closing
 
That's one pub that I wouldn't miss!

don't know where that is!

bottom of church street, just a bit along the high street

apparently, according to twitter, the owners of the Rose and Crown (top end of Church St) and intend turning into a gastro pub :facepalm: because there are so few gastro pubs in the area and there is clearly a need for more :rolleyes:

I don't think it would work as a gastro pub, that part of the street is traditionally a little 'down at heel' and over years I've seen several attempts at making it more church st like, that lemon monkey place being the latest, seems to me the church st regulars get a little scared when they pass the 3 crowns - convinced that beyond there, there be dragons :D
 
i'm sure residents did make complaints, i just wonder which residents and on what grounds. like if the police went round asking for opinions and a lot of the residents weren't customers at the pub i'm sure enough woudl say they wanted it closed down, just assuming that "bad stuff" was happening there wihtout ever actually having been. i mean what did the police raid turn up? was it anything that wouldn't be found at any number of pubs round there? if i was the owner of a pub that was constantly being targetted by police at some point i would give up. it is sad, but anyway they're gone now and i'm sure won't reopen.

If your talking about the Cricketers the pubs owner didnt give it up. He fought the police Review but lost. But he does have the right to apply to a Court to get the Review decision overturned.

If your talking about the Ship Aground the licensce surrendered the licensce before any Review could be heard. At some stage the pubs owner (Punch Taverns I believe) sold the pub.
 
If your talking about the Cricketers the pubs owner didnt give it up. He fought the police Review but lost. But he does have the right to apply to a Court to get the Review decision overturned.

If your talking about the Ship Aground the licensce surrendered the licensce before any Review could be heard. At some stage the pubs owner (Punch Taverns I believe) sold the pub.

?? yes i know, i read what you posted. by "give up" i meant in the cricketers case not trying to appeal and in the case of the ship aground not having the will to go through the review which was probably pretty much a foregone conclusion.
 
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