Greece: Euro crisis
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https://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1435354
https://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1435366
https://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1435411
http://dimostheniszem.blogspot.gr/2012/11/48-7-2012.html
Lots of videos in this link: https://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1435284
The combination of water cannons and heavy rainfall made me so wet that I have shivers today, I have fever. Hundreds of thousands demonstrated yesterday in a massive demo against the new austerity measures that were finally voted by the parliament with 153 YES (of a total 300 MPs). Despite the heavy rainfall that thankfully stopped after 19:00 on the evening, the majority of the demonstrators remained in position. When the rain stopped it was the time to get sprayed by chemicals. For reason that I do not really know of the police started spraying with chemicals and violence escalated after that. The response of a number of demonstrators was to fight back, a number of petrol bombs were thrown at them and this is when the water cannon started throwing water at us. It was the first time that a water cannon was used in central Athens since the military dictatorship back in the 70s.... The police by using their usual tactics wanted to completely empty the square by spraying us continuously with chemicals as if we were flies, but the people remained. Not in the numbers that they were in the beginning but a lot returned to the square and remained there despite the fact that the atmosphere was very heavy as it had turned to a huge gas chamber. The police then started moving on the streets around the square and continued spraying in order to empty the whole city center. At around 20:30 the whole city center of Athens and not only the square was full of chemicals. The heavy rainfall that returned on about 21:00 was also an additional problem but at least the atmosphere cleared a bit.
I have to give credits this time to the HUGE PAME and KKE demo that was also present in the square even when the riots started. Their protection members not only they did not engage in any actions against the rioting demonstrators but on occasions they let demonstrators to have shelter inside the PAME block. Their block remained for very long in Syntagma square, they moved a bit because of the heavy chemicals but they returned back instead of leaving as they usually do. Of course they did protect their block with men carrying sticks as they normally do, but they did not engage at any time and as I said they helped people, especially people that got beaten up or had breathing problems. I hope that they will continue being like this for now on. What is also interesting is that when the police finally decided to chase the demonstrators in the streets they also attacked a part of the PAME block that was at Stadiou street, something that does not happen very often.
Videos of PAME demo
(after the 6th minute gets more interesting)
(PAME returns to the Syntagma square)
In order to answer a question about my pessimism on a previous post, I do not remember if that was in this thread or another. Lately we have had a number of general strikes and demos, but the most of them were disappointing. Not a lot of people were turning up, and there was no passion between the demonstrators as yesterday. Yesterday's demo was quite encouraging. Lots of people turned up, and remained in the square no matter the fact that the police quickly started spraying everyone with no real excuse. The water cannon made a lot of people angry although it was not used for very long, it seemed mostly as a practice rather than an effort to actually use the cannon in order to control the public. They will though soon enough.
Also something very encouraging from last night was the fact that you could see different blocks of people being next to each other something that you do not see very often in greek demos. After a point there were no real blocks formed, people from various left or trotskyist blocks were in the same place with PAME and so on with no real problems. UNITY IS OUR STRENGTH. So if this momentum continues yes I will be optimistic again, if we return to the previous demo appearances I will return to pessimism.
In total more than 100 detained, 3 arrested, 40 injured but thankfully only 3 more seriously, about 12 cops injured as well.
11th of November a gathering has been announced outside the parliament as the government will pass forward the new economic budget for 2013.
14th of November we join forces with all the rest of southern europe.
17th of November the annual polytechnic demo.
https://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1435366
https://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1435411
http://dimostheniszem.blogspot.gr/2012/11/48-7-2012.html
Lots of videos in this link: https://athens.indymedia.org/front.php3?lang=el&article_id=1435284
The combination of water cannons and heavy rainfall made me so wet that I have shivers today, I have fever. Hundreds of thousands demonstrated yesterday in a massive demo against the new austerity measures that were finally voted by the parliament with 153 YES (of a total 300 MPs). Despite the heavy rainfall that thankfully stopped after 19:00 on the evening, the majority of the demonstrators remained in position. When the rain stopped it was the time to get sprayed by chemicals. For reason that I do not really know of the police started spraying with chemicals and violence escalated after that. The response of a number of demonstrators was to fight back, a number of petrol bombs were thrown at them and this is when the water cannon started throwing water at us. It was the first time that a water cannon was used in central Athens since the military dictatorship back in the 70s.... The police by using their usual tactics wanted to completely empty the square by spraying us continuously with chemicals as if we were flies, but the people remained. Not in the numbers that they were in the beginning but a lot returned to the square and remained there despite the fact that the atmosphere was very heavy as it had turned to a huge gas chamber. The police then started moving on the streets around the square and continued spraying in order to empty the whole city center. At around 20:30 the whole city center of Athens and not only the square was full of chemicals. The heavy rainfall that returned on about 21:00 was also an additional problem but at least the atmosphere cleared a bit.
I have to give credits this time to the HUGE PAME and KKE demo that was also present in the square even when the riots started. Their protection members not only they did not engage in any actions against the rioting demonstrators but on occasions they let demonstrators to have shelter inside the PAME block. Their block remained for very long in Syntagma square, they moved a bit because of the heavy chemicals but they returned back instead of leaving as they usually do. Of course they did protect their block with men carrying sticks as they normally do, but they did not engage at any time and as I said they helped people, especially people that got beaten up or had breathing problems. I hope that they will continue being like this for now on. What is also interesting is that when the police finally decided to chase the demonstrators in the streets they also attacked a part of the PAME block that was at Stadiou street, something that does not happen very often.
Videos of PAME demo
(after the 6th minute gets more interesting)
(PAME returns to the Syntagma square)
In order to answer a question about my pessimism on a previous post, I do not remember if that was in this thread or another. Lately we have had a number of general strikes and demos, but the most of them were disappointing. Not a lot of people were turning up, and there was no passion between the demonstrators as yesterday. Yesterday's demo was quite encouraging. Lots of people turned up, and remained in the square no matter the fact that the police quickly started spraying everyone with no real excuse. The water cannon made a lot of people angry although it was not used for very long, it seemed mostly as a practice rather than an effort to actually use the cannon in order to control the public. They will though soon enough.
Also something very encouraging from last night was the fact that you could see different blocks of people being next to each other something that you do not see very often in greek demos. After a point there were no real blocks formed, people from various left or trotskyist blocks were in the same place with PAME and so on with no real problems. UNITY IS OUR STRENGTH. So if this momentum continues yes I will be optimistic again, if we return to the previous demo appearances I will return to pessimism.
In total more than 100 detained, 3 arrested, 40 injured but thankfully only 3 more seriously, about 12 cops injured as well.
11th of November a gathering has been announced outside the parliament as the government will pass forward the new economic budget for 2013.
14th of November we join forces with all the rest of southern europe.
17th of November the annual polytechnic demo.
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Thank you Dimitris!
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Student protest making it's way through center of
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Today's march included a visit to the US Embassy and attempts to get to the Israeli embassy which police have reportedly blocked access to.
http://darkernet.in/10000-demonstra...archists-statement-issued-from-inside-prison/
Pretty big demonstration in solidarity with Anarchist prisoners today, they're claiming 10,000 were present!
Pretty big demonstration in solidarity with Anarchist prisoners today, they're claiming 10,000 were present!
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Shots fired at ND HQ this morning. PM's office hit. They say. Pasok and other offices firebombed. 17 in total over the weekend, including a Syriza office on Crete.
krink
I'll do it this afternoon
Please don't take animals on demos...
RIP Riot Dog.
http://en.enikos.gr/society/16779,RIP_Loukanikos:_Greeces_riot_dog_dies.html
RIP Riot Dog.
http://en.enikos.gr/society/16779,RIP_Loukanikos:_Greeces_riot_dog_dies.html
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Loukanikos wasn't ever taken on demos. He organised them.
#Euroleaks: Why release? And why now? - Yanis Varoufakis
Watch this space: diem25.org and mera25.gr for the release of the unedited recordings around March 10, 2020.
diem25.org
Might be of some interest. Due to be released around the 10th March.
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
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EU corruption scandal puts democracy under attack - European Parliament head
Four people have been arrested over accusations Qatar bribed officials to try to win influence.
www.bbc.co.uk
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