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Grand Designs in Brixton, Channel 4

come up the hill to Crystal Palace - we do nuclear bunkers better up here

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It doesn't fit in with the current road at all, how did they get planning permission?

Good! I hate this misconception in this country that everything has to look the same, that's why we end up with boring flat pack style designs repeated across estates all over the country. Oh look, a Barrat home that looks exactly like a Barrat home 300 miles away.
 
Not all the houses on the road are victorian terraces.
Good! I hate this misconception in this country that everything has to look the same, that's why we end up with boring flat pack style designs repeated across estates all over the country. Oh look, a Barrat home that looks exactly like a Barrat home 300 miles away.

I didn't say look the same, I said fit in, else you just end up with a mismash of buildings. I don't actually dislike the house but it looks out of place.
 
Good! I hate this misconception in this country that everything has to look the same, that's why we end up with boring flat pack style designs repeated across estates all over the country. Oh look, a Barrat home that looks exactly like a Barrat home 300 miles away.

Exactly, 99% of the time planning officers pander to the simplistic approach that looking like everything else around (or alternatively looking vaguely like a badly cobbled together representation of some semi-fictional historic style) is what should determine what people are allowed to build, but now and again one slips through the net and we get something interesting to look at, something that's actually required a bit of intelligence and imagination to concieve.

If 90% of the population of Brixton don't like this house, then that's just tough luck because the other 10% of us have to put up with the awful crap built to pacify you lot, and which makes up the majority of new building that dominates our everyday environment. There, I've said it.

Think of this house as a stealthy Kraftwerk track inserted into a mix of James Blunt, Coldplay and lift music.
 
I didn't say look the same, I said fit in, else you just end up with a mismash of buildings. I don't actually dislike the house but it looks out of place.

I expect it's like having a house full of eclectic mismatching clutter. 3 bits of eclectic mismatching clutter look a bit odd but once it's full of lots of eclectic mismatching clutter it works.

Sort of. Sometimes.
 
I didn't say look the same, I said fit in

What exactly do you mean by "fit in" though, if you stop and think about it? What are your criteria for whether a building "fits in"?

And what about this specific site...what is the particular nature of the site this house is built on, and what would you say would "fit in" on there?
 
Fitting in ould mean building a house in 2012 that looked like it was built in 1812. Where's the sense in that, did the Edwardians or Victorians build houses that looked like previous generations or did they nick bits of styles from all over and make it their own?

Just look at some of the amazing architecture you see in Barcelona for example, why can't we be like that? Why does everything have to 'fit in'?
 
Maybe we should start a new thread, I feel a bit out of place in here since I no longer live in South London :D
 
What exactly do you mean by "fit in" though, if you stop and think about it? What are your criteria for whether a building "fits in"?

And what about this specific site...what is the particular nature of the site this house is built on, and what would you say would "fit in" on there?
Have a look at the surrounding houses, it sticks out like a sore thumb. It's not the same materials, height, colour as the other buildings


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Well we've had mock tudor, now do we have to put up with mock edwardian to 'fit in'....or mock victorian to keep the 'place naice'.

I liked it, I will shoot myself later, wouldnt want to live in it, but appreciate that others do and it's their dream and they've made it real. Rows and rows of identical houses with nothing to differentiate from each other , apart from the state of their nets or the colour of their doors kind of sucks the creative out of the neighbourhood, but chuck a swerve ball like this into the mix and it becomes an interesting street.

Personally I'm all up for a heap of nick nacks and bottles of bubble bath , and a couple of kids pushing each other around on the wheely office would have added to it's charm for me, but the commitment to their ideal was imo worthy of a trophy that would no doubt be consigned to a plywood drawer never to be seen again.
 
Colour and materials of surrounding buildings:
Red brick, london stock brick, white render, glass, PVC window frames, wooden window frames, stone, slate roofs, clay tile roofs, orange painted garage doors, grey metal garage doors, metal roofs, blue doors, green doors, painted brick, grey metal windows, timber cladding, rusty metalwork gates, etc etc etc

Materials of new building:
White render, glass, white painted windows, metal trim.

The "similar materials" thing may make sense in a street where the buildings are very uniform and attractive, and where something incongruous might spoil that effect, but it's hardly the case here. That bit of Lyham Rd (well most of Lyham Road) is a hotpotch of stuff anyway, and in terms of colour and material the new building is pretty restrained and hardly adding much extra confusion. I'd say it's a welcome distraction from the unremarkable and ugly terrace of PVC-d houses just up the road from it.

As for size, well, you could argue it looks a "bit bigger" but then again it doesn't look like it's higher than the gable of the house on the street corner opposite, or the church.
 
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