kalidarkone
Bringing YOU round.....
I get shampooed once a year when I go to the hairdressers to get blonded. Other then that just conditioner ( that's also the only time I comb it) and argan / jojoba oil.
Giving up shampoo and conditioner
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Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
Any specific recommendations for caring for your scalp?
I've been just using conditioner for a while now, and I'm noticing my scalp gets quite itchy (no dandruff). I have a really shit shower, with no pressure at all, which I've always suspected makes things worse, because I really have to work hard to ensure everything gets washed away properly.
Honestly, I care less about the state of my hair than I do about my scalp. Any rinses or treatments for the scalp that could help clarify or calm it down or something, idk?
I've been just using conditioner for a while now, and I'm noticing my scalp gets quite itchy (no dandruff). I have a really shit shower, with no pressure at all, which I've always suspected makes things worse, because I really have to work hard to ensure everything gets washed away properly.
Honestly, I care less about the state of my hair than I do about my scalp. Any rinses or treatments for the scalp that could help clarify or calm it down or something, idk?
Dovydaitis
Official fishco fish groupie
I caved and shampooed today, made a week but hair was like lanky streaks of piss
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Have you tried doing nothing? No conditioner, no water wash.
I seem to be using a tiny bit of shampoo about once every three weeks. I'd still rather not use any at all but the rouge silver polish that I use always finds a way to get onto my hair and when it gets to 2-3 weeks my hair has an unsightly pink/orange tinge to it. Conditioner alone doesn't remove it once its got that bad.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
As a result of this thread I've re-evaluated everything about my hair. I've done what is probably the antithesis of this thread, and given up everything except shampoo, lol.
I tried cowashing, but my scalp was getting itchy. I tried just rinsing with water every so often, but the result was the same.
My scalp was crying out for a good wash. I bought some T-Gel sensitive and used that and that alone, and put nothing on my hair afterwards, and god my curls were the best they've been in years. The best they've ever been! Drier than I'd have liked, which is to be expected, but they looked good, and my scalp felt better than it had in weeks.
So now I'm just shampooing every few days, maybe 2.5 times a week. Not always the T-Gel. I went back to using my old Lush staple (Rehab), which seems to be more moisturising and weighs my curls down more (the opposite of what I want; I have wiry, coarse hair that will curl a lot but while it looks thick it isn't, it's actually quite sparse and is weighed down very easily, which stops it from curling consistently, making some bits look curly and others just look stringy). Today I used Lush's purple one... what's it called? That violet-smelling one. I can't remember. Anyway.
I'm never going to win awards for my hair because I simply don't care enough. I cut it myself, and I can't be fucked with styling or spending more than 5 minutes on it. Unfortunately my hair type means it needs attention in order to look okay, but I can't be bothered, so I have to live with various types of not-so-okay, and I think deciding to give the straighteners and any 'product' the heave-ho and stop giving a shit what people think of the 'I live in a hedge' look has been quite liberating.
And my hair dries really fucking quickly now compared to before.
I tried cowashing, but my scalp was getting itchy. I tried just rinsing with water every so often, but the result was the same.
My scalp was crying out for a good wash. I bought some T-Gel sensitive and used that and that alone, and put nothing on my hair afterwards, and god my curls were the best they've been in years. The best they've ever been! Drier than I'd have liked, which is to be expected, but they looked good, and my scalp felt better than it had in weeks.
So now I'm just shampooing every few days, maybe 2.5 times a week. Not always the T-Gel. I went back to using my old Lush staple (Rehab), which seems to be more moisturising and weighs my curls down more (the opposite of what I want; I have wiry, coarse hair that will curl a lot but while it looks thick it isn't, it's actually quite sparse and is weighed down very easily, which stops it from curling consistently, making some bits look curly and others just look stringy). Today I used Lush's purple one... what's it called? That violet-smelling one. I can't remember. Anyway.
I'm never going to win awards for my hair because I simply don't care enough. I cut it myself, and I can't be fucked with styling or spending more than 5 minutes on it. Unfortunately my hair type means it needs attention in order to look okay, but I can't be bothered, so I have to live with various types of not-so-okay, and I think deciding to give the straighteners and any 'product' the heave-ho and stop giving a shit what people think of the 'I live in a hedge' look has been quite liberating.
And my hair dries really fucking quickly now compared to before.
Sea Star
have you ever explored your dark side?
My hair only looks good if i shampoo every day. On the second day i always look like i've been washing in chip fat! 
I try not to use conditioner every day but if I don;t condition i get really big hair! And not in a good way - in a mad cat lady way
I try not to use conditioner every day but if I don;t condition i get really big hair! And not in a good way - in a mad cat lady way
Vintage Paw it's Daddy O - the smell is a dead giveaway.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
That's the one. Gets purple shit everywhere 
Biddlybee
making knots with sticks
Can someone let me know what I'm looking for if I want silicone-free or sulphate-free shampoos?
My hair is breaking loads and leaving me with a permanent fuzz which is horrible, and my first step is seeing what happens if I cut those out ^
Not sure what else to try atm.
My hair is breaking loads and leaving me with a permanent fuzz which is horrible, and my first step is seeing what happens if I cut those out ^
Not sure what else to try atm.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
Take a look at some afro/natural hair sites. There's loads of information about silicons and sulphates, with lists of ingredients to avoid.
Places like this Where Curls Come to Life - NaturallyCurly.com will have more information than just looking up any old article in Cosmo or similar.
Places like this Where Curls Come to Life - NaturallyCurly.com will have more information than just looking up any old article in Cosmo or similar.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
You can get lots of stuff in the UK here: British Curlies Shop but never as much as there seems to be available in the US.
BoatieBird
Well-Known Member
I've been using Palmers coconut cleansing conditioner for a few months and I've been really happy with the results.
It's nearly run out so I thought I'd try something else and went for this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006R2C9Q8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Wish I hadn't bothered
It's heavy and seemed to coat my hair and made it feel horrible.
Back to the Palmers from now on.
It's nearly run out so I thought I'd try something else and went for this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006R2C9Q8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Wish I hadn't bothered
It's heavy and seemed to coat my hair and made it feel horrible.
Back to the Palmers from now on.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
If it's in a pot, it's likely for very dry, and/or natural hair types, and is going to be very thick and moisturising.
Within reason, you can tell what hair type a product is for by the container it's in
I went very deep down the rabbit hole of natural/curly hair products and info a few years ago, and tried all sorts of things. Anything in a pot was far too heavy for me, although there was the most amazing stuff called Straight Pearl by Blended Beauty that was excellent to coat my hair before using straighteners but they've discontinued it
I think they got rid of their Straightening Glaze too, but their Kick for Curls has a similar result and is one of the best things I've found for reducing frizz. It does bugger all for curling my hair, but it does wonders for the texture. It's a very light liquid in a spray.
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I think I'm going to go back to my old routine, or thereabouts. I decided to cut everything out because my scalp was playing up, but it hasn't improved all that much and my hair is so hit and miss I can't be bothered with the annoyance anymore. I might try a couple of new low-poo shampoos with a new conditioner, and see how things go. Otherwise I'm going back to using Kick for Curls and actually shampooing and conditioning. I'm still avoiding straightening though, even though it makes life a lot easier (once you've spent 10 minutes doing the straightening).
I really hate my hair.
Within reason, you can tell what hair type a product is for by the container it's in
I went very deep down the rabbit hole of natural/curly hair products and info a few years ago, and tried all sorts of things. Anything in a pot was far too heavy for me, although there was the most amazing stuff called Straight Pearl by Blended Beauty that was excellent to coat my hair before using straighteners but they've discontinued it
I think they got rid of their Straightening Glaze too, but their Kick for Curls has a similar result and is one of the best things I've found for reducing frizz. It does bugger all for curling my hair, but it does wonders for the texture. It's a very light liquid in a spray.--
I think I'm going to go back to my old routine, or thereabouts. I decided to cut everything out because my scalp was playing up, but it hasn't improved all that much and my hair is so hit and miss I can't be bothered with the annoyance anymore. I might try a couple of new low-poo shampoos with a new conditioner, and see how things go. Otherwise I'm going back to using Kick for Curls and actually shampooing and conditioning. I'm still avoiding straightening though, even though it makes life a lot easier (once you've spent 10 minutes doing the straightening).
I really hate my hair.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
Yeah, curly hair optional. It's useful for its information about ingredients and how to keep hair healthy. Even when it's talking specifically about curly hair you can take the information and tailor it to suit. Basically, if you're looking for information about no-shampoo/co-wash/low-shampoo stuff there is no better information than on these websites. There simply isn't the same market for it amongst people with straight hair, so little need for these websites to begin with.
BoatieBird
Well-Known Member
If it's in a pot, it's likely for very dry, and/or natural hair types, and is going to be very thick and moisturising.
Within reason, you can tell what hair type a product is for by the container it's in
Good rule of thumb there VP, cheers
I'm going to check out the British Curlies site and order something more appropriate for my hair, which I think I have worked out to be in the s'wavy and wavy category.
Wolveryeti
Detty Pig
I got fed up with shampoo about a year ago and have been rinsing my hair with water only.
The results are great - money saved, hair moee ruly, scalp feels great, and no smell.
I recommend everyone try it for at least a month, and see if you go back..
The results are great - money saved, hair moee ruly, scalp feels great, and no smell.
I recommend everyone try it for at least a month, and see if you go back..
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ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
I've got very fine, naturally curly hair, and I've recently been using this, with good results.
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
I can really recommend shampoos and conditioners from SheaMoisture (available through the British Curlies website).
None of the shampoos have sulphates, (actually there might be one that does - a deep cleansing one) including their clarifying shampoo (that one has apple cider vinegar added to it as well). The intense hydrating range have a really strong smell that lingers afterwards for at least a day, so it might not be for some who get headaches or are otherwise sensitive to that. The clarifying shampoo is AMAZING - it almost feels like you've already used a conditioner. It smells (and looks) sort of like a dark honey. The smell doesn't particularly linger. I've also used the Coconut and Hibiscus conditioner (haven't used the shampoo yet) and it has a subtle scent.
As I've been doing various experiments with co-washing, not washing, not using styling products, using standard shampoos, and so on, my hair has been getting drier and drier. A couple of weeks using this stuff though (washing about twice a week, and rinsing but not washing at least once in between then) and my hair is so much softer but not fluffy-limp soft. It seems to give my hair more volume as well.
If you have hair that gets greasy easily then it's likely not for you, but if your hair gets dry, needs moisture, and you don't want to give up shampoo and conditioner altogether I definitely recommend giving it a go. It's pricey. Seems like it'll last a while though if you haven't got really long hair.
The clarifying shampoo:
None of the shampoos have sulphates, (actually there might be one that does - a deep cleansing one) including their clarifying shampoo (that one has apple cider vinegar added to it as well). The intense hydrating range have a really strong smell that lingers afterwards for at least a day, so it might not be for some who get headaches or are otherwise sensitive to that. The clarifying shampoo is AMAZING - it almost feels like you've already used a conditioner. It smells (and looks) sort of like a dark honey. The smell doesn't particularly linger. I've also used the Coconut and Hibiscus conditioner (haven't used the shampoo yet) and it has a subtle scent.
As I've been doing various experiments with co-washing, not washing, not using styling products, using standard shampoos, and so on, my hair has been getting drier and drier. A couple of weeks using this stuff though (washing about twice a week, and rinsing but not washing at least once in between then) and my hair is so much softer but not fluffy-limp soft. It seems to give my hair more volume as well.
If you have hair that gets greasy easily then it's likely not for you, but if your hair gets dry, needs moisture, and you don't want to give up shampoo and conditioner altogether I definitely recommend giving it a go. It's pricey. Seems like it'll last a while though if you haven't got really long hair.
The clarifying shampoo:
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
I wish they did smaller trial sizes, because it costs a fortune to try stuff out.
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
By accident I’ve been doing this for the last few weeks. I ran out of shampoo and have been just using water when I shower.
So far it seems my hair isn’t greasy and is a bit more springy. My hair tends to be thick and straight. I can’t really tell whether if it looks any better but it certainly doesn’t feel any worse if that makes sense.
I’m not sure how long I’ll keep it up as pondering growing my hair out but for now it’s interesting to see how things develop over the next few months before I inevitably start spraying it with sun-in as it gets warmer 
So far it seems my hair isn’t greasy and is a bit more springy. My hair tends to be thick and straight. I can’t really tell whether if it looks any better but it certainly doesn’t feel any worse if that makes sense.
I’m not sure how long I’ll keep it up as pondering growing my hair out but for now it’s interesting to see how things develop over the next few months before I inevitably start spraying it with sun-in as it gets warmer
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
Does sun-in still exist?! Always remember the adolescent summer when I used it after henna in springI’m not sure how long I’ll keep it up as pondering growing my hair out but for now it’s interesting to see how things develop over the next few months before I inevitably start spraying it with sun-in as it gets warmer
Regarding thread title, have started doing a half way version of this, ie conditioning only two or three times between shampoos. Got told by a friend that this is the “curly girl method” apparently. Don’t think I can skip shampoo completely as there’s definitely a build up of something - but that might be more to do with the cuticle sealant I then use when it’s wet and maybe no longer need. It’s definitely frizzing less though, even after the shampoo washes.
Also, Shirl…
muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
I've shampooed maybe twice in the last four years.
Don't overlook bedding as a vector for problems/solutions too - no point spending hours every week on an amazing haircare routine only to spend 8 hours every night smushing it against some polyester pillowcase you've not washed for a month
Don't overlook bedding as a vector for problems/solutions too - no point spending hours every week on an amazing haircare routine only to spend 8 hours every night smushing it against some polyester pillowcase you've not washed for a month
purenarcotic
Conveniently Pocket Sized
Does sun-in still exist?! Always remember the adolescent summer when I used it after henna in spring
Regarding thread title, have started doing a half way version of this, ie conditioning only two or three times between shampoos. Got told by a friend that this is the “curly girl method” apparently. Don’t think I can skip shampoo completely as there’s definitely a build up of something - but that might be more to do with the cuticle sealant I then use when it’s wet and maybe no longer need. It’s definitely frizzing less though, even after the shampoo washes.
Also, Shirl…
I did full on CG for well over a year. Just shout if you have any questions!
Agent Sparrow
the age of slippers and migraines
Thanks! Is the idea that you don’t use any anti frizz products after you’ve washed or do you still need to?
muscovyduck
Good IT skills and food hygiene competent
What was your routine and why did you stop?
