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George IV/Music Bar at 144 Brixton Hill closing as another Tesco comes to Brixton

The George is on the Planning agenda for tonight, 14th May, 7pm at the Town Hall. All four related items are down for approval.

Please update with info from the meeting if you can. I'm a bit vexed that they've sent me a letter saying it has been withdrawn, while the same thing is 'recommended for approval' on tonights agenda.

Shysters.
 
Did you make a note of which councillors voted for and against? No doubt the labour lot all voted for - with the Barratt Homes meeting it was really only Lib Dems who voted against...

Just bumping this cos I'd really like to know and I'm sure others would too - I'd do the brackets/username thing to alert but I'm on a phone and have no laptop at present.

Also makes me wonder if we shouldn't start a whole thread devoted to Lambeth's individual councillors - what they voted for & against, their positions on local issues, their statements 'on behalf of the community' etc - what do you lot reckon?
 
I don't know what the councillors were supposed to do...
They could have put the decision off until the imminent results of the Brixton SPD consultation...which may have suggested the community wanted to retain pubs instead of multinational companies which are likely to harm the diversity & success of local independent businesses....
 
They could have put the decision off until the imminent results of the Brixton SPD consultation...which may have suggested the community wanted to retain pubs instead of multinational companies which are likely to harm the diversity & success of local independent businesses....


Yes. The bigger picture is that this is a bad call. But, in isolation, it was unavoidable.

I have to admit that, when I walk past, I feel sad that this fine building will be a crappy, overpriced store. Wish Tesco had bought out ATS or the tile place instead
 
I have to admit that, when I walk past, I feel sad that this fine building will be a crappy, overpriced store. Wish Tesco had bought out ATS or the tile place instead
Absolutely.

Yes. The bigger picture is that this is a bad call. But, in isolation, it was unavoidable.
It's only become unavoidable because of the policies of the recent/past Labour and Tory governments (local *and* national). The precise intention of various planning acts over the past 20 years has been to make it easier for developers to get things done - 'reducing bureaucracy' and 'freeing up the market' etc :rolleyes: (i'll reference all this stuff in the morning of course :) )
 
Emergency meeting to Save George IV - this Sunday at the Hand in Hand, New Park Road, SW2

More details here: http://www.urban75.net/forums/threa...ng-hand-in-hand-new-park-road-sw2-4en.310470/

Lambeth, London Borough of Tesco

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I don't know what the councillors were supposed to do. Tesco owned the building. Stop them trading? Unlikely.

They could have voted against the proposals on the basis that they don't fit with the conservation area the building is in, nor with local planning policies. Just because Tesco have acquired the lease doesn't mean they have to be allowed to build a Tesco on, or a standard-issue bright white and blue Tesco, on the premises.
 
Did you make a note of which councillors voted for and against? No doubt the labour lot all voted for - with the Barratt Homes meeting it was really only Lib Dems who voted against...

Shifting gears asked which councillors voted for the Tesco scheme and did the Labour lot all vote for. I was at the planning committee meeting and that yes the lib dem did vote against but the labour vote was split. There were 4 labour councillors at the meeting - two (the chair Cllr Diana Morris and Cllr Malley) voted for, one abstained and one (Cllr Jennifer Braithwaite) voted against. There was also a tory cllr at the meeting who abstained. The result was a split vote - two for, two against and two abstentions - after which Cllr Morris used her casting vote in favour. I've seen Cllr Braithwaite (black councillor, Gypsy Hill ward) in action at other planning committee meetings and she's a star, asks tough questions and won't be browbeaten by developers, planning officers or members of her own party.
 
Live above it. Can confirm it's all kicking off. Sledgehammers from 7am most mornings :(


What's happening with the back? I've seen lots of people on the roof peering over in the past few weeks, including what looks like guys from the ATS garage

I see you guys sitting enjoying the sun and having parties as well :D
 
What's happening with the back? I've seen lots of people on the roof peering over in the past few weeks, including what looks like guys from the ATS garage

I see you guys sitting enjoying the sun and having parties as well :D


Ha, that was probably me! Think Tesco's are taking the back room downstairs, but the roof terrace is still ours, thank Christ. Summers on that terrace are one of the main reasons I've lived there for so long!
 
Ha, that was probably me! Think Tesco's are taking the back room downstairs, but the roof terrace is still ours, thank Christ. Summers on that terrace are one of the main reasons I've lived there for so long!

There was a big party there a few weeks ago, along with lots of food and loads of people.

Why do people keep going on to the terrace to look over it? What exactly are they looking at, that little yard or something? :hmm:

and why have I see people from the garage next door on the terrace?

I thought you had a burglar yesterday but it was one of the garage guys climbing the tyre mountain backing on to pub wall looking for a tyre :D

eta: ah, maybe guys on terrace are getting an aerial view of the toilets from the pub
 
I've not seen any of the tyre guys there to my knowledge - though we had a builder sleeping downstairs for a while whilst the bar was vacant, so it could have just been him in his overalls.

As for peering into the courtyard, it's either just curious guests or watching the ATS guys shout at each other/pull doughnuts in their cars in the yard during lunch break.
 
I've not seen any of the tyre guys there to my knowledge - though we had a builder sleeping downstairs for a while whilst the bar was vacant, so it could have just been him in his overalls.

As for peering into the courtyard, it's either just curious guests or watching the ATS guys shout at each other/pull doughnuts in their cars in the yard during lunch break.

I saw them on the roof a few times looking over. Maybe it was garage related and they were just borrowing your roof to view something.

Anyway, what are the guys on the roof that have been on there on and off for the last few days up to? Making the flat roof better or something? It looks like there's metal sheeting down
 
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