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That is quite something! 3 points from 45 is pretty awful form mind you, though I know nothing about K's to say why. Seems to be a bit of a disparity between the manager and chairman as to the resources available...
Most of their defeats have been 1-2, 2-3, or 1-3. They've scored in almost every game and their goal difference of -22 isn't that bad considering they're miles adrift at the bottom with only 3 league wins by mid-February. My impression is that Simon Lane had neither the contacts nor the budget to build a good enough squad, but probably got as much as could reasonably be expected out of what he had. The board has basically thrown in the towel on the relegation fight by committing to sharing at a ground that doesn't have a grading for their current level, so they won't find a new manager who can do better and at least one of the current players has already announced he's leaving. It doesn't look much of an opportunity for a manager with any sort of experience at this level and I won't be surprised if we see them take some real hammerings before the end of the season now.
 
This time last week I was in Nantes watching PSG, today me and little 27 made the drive from Barry to Dorking to watch Wanderers v Ebbsfleet. Great set up. lovely ground, great welcome, including an introduction to owner/manager Mark White and prices for food,beer (£5 for a pint of Moretti) and replica kits was very reasonable. will definitely venture up again.
 
Not an accountant but what struck me straight away was that drop of around quarter of million pounds in the value of their fixed assets. The rest seems to be made up of long term creditors. Over to the number crunchers.
 
Someone asked about You Tube revenues recently. Some data on views for British football in the past 30 days has appeared on X. Four English non PL / EFL sides are in the top fifty. In descending order 5Guys, Hashtag United, Donstrapzy and Farnham Town.

A top 50 for English non league has also been produced. Hashtag had 1,243,062 views, suggesting it may be a better income stream than I suspected. 50th for non-league was AFC Fylde on 7,220 views.

The source is pnuk.com. it seems you may have to register your channel with them. They are currently tracking 102 non league football channels, DHFC don't seem to be in their listing.
 
Someone asked about You Tube revenues recently. Some data on views for British football in the past 30 days has appeared on X. Four English non PL / EFL sides are in the top fifty. In descending order 5Guys, Hashtag United, Donstrapzy and Farnham Town.

A top 50 for English non league has also been produced. Hashtag had 1,243,062 views, suggesting it may be a better income stream than I suspected. 50th for non-league was AFC Fylde on 7,220 views.

The source is pnuk.com. it seems you may have to register your channel with them. They are currently tracking 102 non league football channels, DHFC don't seem to be in their listing.
Will look into this

Thanks for making us aware :)
 
Someone asked about You Tube revenues recently. Some data on views for British football in the past 30 days has appeared on X. Four English non PL / EFL sides are in the top fifty. In descending order 5Guys, Hashtag United, Donstrapzy and Farnham Town.

A top 50 for English non league has also been produced. Hashtag had 1,243,062 views, suggesting it may be a better income stream than I suspected. 50th for non-league was AFC Fylde on 7,220 views.

The source is pnuk.com. it seems you may have to register your channel with them. They are currently tracking 102 non league football channels, DHFC don't seem to be in their listing.
Seems to be various figures out there about how much revenue YouTube generates for #️⃣ but have seen figures as high as £700k mentioned which is rather tasty!
 
Here's some pics from Saturday's match at Carshalton. The vile abuse dished out by the Chatham fans at the linesman has edged them into a team I'm going to dislike forever!

In photos: Carshalton United 2-0 Chatham Town, Saturday, 2nd March 2024


In photos: Carshalton United 2-0 Chatham Town, Saturday, 2nd March 2024


In photos: Carshalton United 2-0 Chatham Town, Saturday, 2nd March 2024


In photos: Carshalton United 2-0 Chatham Town, Saturday, 2nd March 2024


 
Being an Essex based Hamlet fan I haven't been able to get to many home games this year (household commitments) so have really enjoyed going to any game local within a 30min drive that I've never visited before.

This season have taken in Hashtag (v Dulwich), Dagenham, Canvey, Chelmsford, Concorde, Maldon, Heybridge Swifts, Southend and am off to Aveley tonight.

I like to rate the burger on offer too. Best one was at Hullbridge Sports end of last season, combined with the entertainment of watching a Hullbridge striker sent off for throttling the Coggeshall keeper on the ground after a goal mouth scramble,.although I left before an air ambulance was apparently called for an injured player that lead to the game called off a few mins early.
 
Being an Essex based Hamlet fan I haven't been able to get to many home games this year (household commitments) so have really enjoyed going to any game local within a 30min drive that I've never visited before.

This season have taken in Hashtag (v Dulwich), Dagenham, Canvey, Chelmsford, Concorde, Maldon, Heybridge Swifts, Southend and am off to Aveley tonight.

I like to rate the burger on offer too. Best one was at Hullbridge Sports end of last season, combined with the entertainment of watching a Hullbridge striker sent off for throttling the Coggeshall keeper on the ground after a goal mouth scramble,.although I left before an air ambulance was apparently called for an injured player that lead to the game called off a few mins early.

Burger was amazing at Hullbridge. Somehow managed a double (half pound?) bacon cheeseburger there. Not much more than a fiver.
 
Burger was amazing at Hullbridge. Somehow managed a double (half pound?) bacon cheeseburger there. Not much more than a fiver.
Ha, yeah, exactly what I had!

I see all these Footy Scran posts on Twitter and yearn for the day somewhere Essex based offers something different than just burgers and chips but given the location perhaps that's a pipe dream.

Aveley 0-0 Yeovil. Dull and cold. Will keep an eye out though for Aveley's young left back Eduino Vaz. Supposedly on non contract terms as he doesn't have the rights yet to work in the UK, but was really good...
 
Aveley 0-0 Yeovil. Dull and cold. Will keep an eye out though for Aveley's young left back Eduino Vaz. Supposedly on non contract terms as he doesn't have the rights yet to work in the UK, but was really good...
He's the Chelmsford player who got wound up by Jayden Clarke during the mass brawl last season, then got a second yellow card for a absurdly late tackle on Jayden as soon as play restarted. He played for Chelmsford against us the previous season too, and I thought he stood out as potentially good enough for a higher level. A good dead ball specialist too.
 
Something about the video ended up just winding me up!


An "entertainment brand"? Yeah, winds me up too.
I'm not watching 20 mins of this, but presumably there's a ton of cash gone in.

It's going to be a big crash if the money runs out.

(That said, Winchester City have a new money man, and there are ground improvements in the pipeline and we seem to have a decent playing budget these days)

Ground improvements are permanent though, and do help clubs in the long term.
 
Re Farnham, Harry is a thoroughly likeable human. He co-founded a company which was sold for over a billion when he was 26 or so, meaning he's worth very serious sums. Not that you'd know it if you bumped into him. He grew up above a pub at The Bourne, a small village just outside Farnham, played for Farnham kids set up and loves football. Haing made his money, he wanted to put something back into his home town. One of the ways he's doing that is via football.

Farnham had been a disaster zone for decades. More comatose than sleeping. A shocking
ground, shocking pitch and 30 fans on a good day. Meanwhile Farnham RU quietly turned the town into a rugby town. The first time England won the World Cup three of the squad were ex Farnham RU Juniors earning to them all sorts of assistance from the local council.

The off field management at Farnham Town improved things a bit pre Harry.When I first moved out here I went once and decided not to return, the experience in the ground was too depressing. I started going regularly two years before Harry arrived, when gates had crept up to 120. His arrival put rocket boosters under the process.

Selling step five football is difficult. A quick look at the crowds in the CoCo South, in a densely populated part of England, shows that. What's going on at Farnham is a strategy. They are using the net and working with the community to get locals interested. It's working. They recognised as gates boomed the match day experience was sub optimal, so started to sort that. It's left the club with good gates and an average spend per head figure, and therefore income, the envy of most step four and five clubs.

Harry has two mantras. Firstly that he won't be around forever and wants to leave a solvent club. (He's just got engaged, things will change for him soon.) Secondly he wants to create memories for the town.

Has money gone in? Absolutely, the club openly state they have a good wage budget and they didn't do £150k ground improvements on credit. Last season saw gates rise from 150 at the start to over 1,000 for some late season games. How exactly do you set a budget for this season without guessing? No-one knew if those new fans would stick around. It'll be interesting to see whether there's a financial correction next season, when they have another year's worth of data. The recent plethora of postponements won't be helping. Tuesdays (and soon Thursdays) clear a lot less cash than Saturdays.

I was at another local ground last season, when Farnham were going badly and were widely referred at as 'a circus' in local non-league circles. It was all "they should stick to football" and "no-one cares about You Tube." 15 months on that club, despite being a step higher, still pull around 120 and I reduce the average age when I show. (I'm in my 50's.) Farnham have seen gates boom by 400% and revenues by much more. I feel positively.old when I go there. The other club stick up a few posters, send the odd tweet and then moan that they can't understand why people don't flood through the turnstiles.

Harry isn't hurling money into wages. He's growing income streams to fund that. He's funding the stuff which helps grow revenue streams, leaving long term assets for the club. He's not daft. I asked him a few weeks ago where he expected the club to be in five years, dreading him saying aiming for Football League.He said Step Three. He recognises the Memorial Ground tops out at Step Three and, given the nature of the area, a big new ground is highly unlikely. There's no totally unrealistic five year plan.

Any club would be lucky to get Harry. I have no doubt someone bigger will try to bring him on board. He's one of the most outstanding individuals I have ever met. I:m not in the slightest bit surprised he did so well in business. Non-league football could do with many more people like Harry.
 
Re Farnham, Harry is a thoroughly likeable human. He co-founded a company which was sold for over a billion when he was 26 or so, meaning he's worth very serious sums. Not that you'd know it if you bumped into him. He grew up above a pub at The Bourne, a small village just outside Farnham, played for Farnham kids set up and loves football. Haing made his money, he wanted to put something back into his home town. One of the ways he's doing that is via football.

Farnham had been a disaster zone for decades. More comatose than sleeping. A shocking
ground, shocking pitch and 30 fans on a good day. Meanwhile Farnham RU quietly turned the town into a rugby town. The first time England won the World Cup three of the squad were ex Farnham RU Juniors earning to them all sorts of assistance from the local council.

The off field management at Farnham Town improved things a bit pre Harry.When I first moved out here I went once and decided not to return, the experience in the ground was too depressing. I started going regularly two years before Harry arrived, when gates had crept up to 120. His arrival put rocket boosters under the process.

Selling step five football is difficult. A quick look at the crowds in the CoCo South, in a densely populated part of England, shows that. What's going on at Farnham is a strategy. They are using the net and working with the community to get locals interested. It's working. They recognised as gates boomed the match day experience was sub optimal, so started to sort that. It's left the club with good gates and an average spend per head figure, and therefore income, the envy of most step four and five clubs.

Harry has two mantras. Firstly that he won't be around forever and wants to leave a solvent club. (He's just got engaged, things will change for him soon.) Secondly he wants to create memories for the town.

Has money gone in? Absolutely, the club openly state they have a good wage budget and they didn't do £150k ground improvements on credit. Last season saw gates rise from 150 at the start to over 1,000 for some late season games. How exactly do you set a budget for this season without guessing? No-one knew if those new fans would stick around. It'll be interesting to see whether there's a financial correction next season, when they have another year's worth of data. The recent plethora of postponements won't be helping. Tuesdays (and soon Thursdays) clear a lot less cash than Saturdays.

I was at another local ground last season, when Farnham were going badly and were widely referred at as 'a circus' in local non-league circles. It was all "they should stick to football" and "no-one cares about You Tube." 15 months on that club, despite being a step higher, still pull around 120 and I reduce the average age when I show. (I'm in my 50's.) Farnham have seen gates boom by 400% and revenues by much more. I feel positively.old when I go there. The other club stick up a few posters, send the odd tweet and then moan that they can't understand why people don't flood through the turnstiles.

Harry isn't hurling money into wages. He's growing income streams to fund that. He's funding the stuff which helps grow revenue streams, leaving long term assets for the club. He's not daft. I asked him a few weeks ago where he expected the club to be in five years, dreading him saying aiming for Football League.He said Step Three. He recognises the Memorial Ground tops out at Step Three and, given the nature of the area, a big new ground is highly unlikely. There's no totally unrealistic five year plan.

Any club would be lucky to get Harry. I have no doubt someone bigger will try to bring him on board. He's one of the most outstanding individuals I have ever met. I:m not in the slightest bit surprised he did so well in business. Non-league football could do with many more people like Harry.
Fair play.

Like I said, ground improvements are permanent, and are a big help to clubs. Christ, Winchester City's ground is a dump at the moment, and that doesn't help when people come to a game for a look see.

We all agree that online presence etc is a big deal these days, but language like "entertainment brand" is always going to piss football people off.

Playing budget wise, it's fine as long as he doesn't wander off leaving the club with wages it can't afford.
 
Something about the video ended up just winding me up!

I watched the whole 20 minutes and found it very interesting. The phrase "entertainment brand" grates somewhat, but a lot of what they're doing doesn't seem very different to how the Hamlet has grown over the last 10 years. Farnham seem to have more emphasis on social media, but that wasn't so highly developed when we started
 
Harry has basically merged the Hamlet strategy with the Walton & Hersham strategy. How aware he is of Hamlets strategy I don't know - he was about 14 when Liam and Mishi planned the strategy.. Borrowing from Walton was totally intentional.

Edited to add to that one of the key people in Farnham's social media team is Les Cleevely's son
 
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Harry has basically merged the Hamlet strategy with the Walton & Hersham strategy. How aware he is of Hamlets strategy I don't know - he was about 14 when Liam and Mishi planned the strategy.. Borrowing from Walton was totally intentional.

Edited to add to that one of the key people in Farnham's social media team is Les Cleevely's son

Sir Les Cleevely.
 
The weather has really taken its toll down here in the Southern Premier South. Worst off are Plymouth Parkway, who are already playing Tuesdays and Thursdays to make up for postponed matches.

Their pitch is in such a bad state, they are playing their next two home games 130 miles away at Yate (just outside Bristol).
Here at Winchester City, we are rather hoping this is extended until at least Thursday 21 March, when it's our away game against them, Yate being a damned sight closer than Plymouth.


 
Taunton Town still in the mire:

Much as I hate to see clubs in trouble, the comments their CEO passed after coming to Dulwich mean that I think he's just another idiot who thinks football is about hurling abuse at people. Apparently, fans talking at Dulwich drowned out their fans and the whole experience is not what football should be like. He suggested that we should have a designated area for those who don't want to just watch the game and just chat.
 
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