Frankie Boyle - business as usual (Rebecca Adlington)

[gabi]

from boyle's twitter. have to agree.

Front page for a very mild gag? That you only get if you follow me? Must seem strange to a Syrian. Or anyone who's read the other jokes.

 

[gabi]

Suggesting I and others are trying to censor him are as daft as gabi's 'it's not as bad as rape jokes'. He makes his jokes, he builds his career, does comedy - I'm not trying to stop him, I'm reacting to it. Censoring him - sweet jesus! If I was funnier and on a stage, I'd be pretty much saying what Stewart Lee says about him (and yes, I am aware that Lee himself gets similarly personal).

You started this thread and *I'm* the daft one?

 

[Wilf]

thanks for this

I'm sorry can you point me to the official urban humour list so I can make sure I'm down with the agreed party line on this Mr Whipp...

you know so that the group think can be maintained at all possible cost...

Oh Christ, we must be censoring you now!

 

[Ted Striker]

no you're right ted you're not faux-superior but it was still a shit retort you got that right ... try not to make any shitter ones, eh?

I appreciate that someone making lots of money fame and attention out of acting a humourless vitriolic arsehole is some sort of idol to you, but honestly the rest of us will call something shit if it indeed is.

You confuse peoples mocking of his output as if denying it exists on any 'comedy' spectrum, then come out with the shite like you "don't understand it" which is as predictable as one of his appearances on Mock the Week.

Like I said, some sort of idol and 'legend' to guys like you. Just saying most of us have seen it all before. Hence it's pretty shite IMO.

 

[butchersapron]

from boyle's twitter. have to agree.

Agree with what? The cheap cheap attempt to say that at least I'm not **fill in own example here**? If so, what other sort of jokes (in fact what sort of actions) does this justify by not seeming that important to a Syrian? Pretty much everything short of mass slaughter. What shit lazy bullying logic.

 

[Wilf]

no he's a comedian, you and others pushing for certain types of comedy to be censored because it don't meet your exacting standards are in fact the bullies by dictating what a wider audience should or should not be exposed too in terms of your personal taste ...

If you don't like it turn: it off/ it over/away from it

don't seek to censor others by the standards of your own pedestrian sense of humour...

Just wanted to keep this in view. Wow, fucking wow. Absolutely fucking astonishing.

Go on, just have another go at pointing out the call for censorship.

 

[editor]

no he's a comedian, you and others pushing for certain types of comedy to be censored because it don't meet your exacting standards are in fact the bullies by dictating what a wider audience should or should not be exposed too in terms of your personal taste ...

If you don't like it turn: it off/ it over/away from it

don't seek to censor others by the standards of your own pedestrian sense of humour...

Did I ask for him to be banned/censored/taken off air/silenced/edited?
No, I didn't, so stop posting up your dishonest bullshit.

 

[RaverDrew]

Just for the record, are we misogynist, sexist, bullies if we make jokes about Margaret Thatcher ?

 

[editor]

Just for the record, are we misogynist, sexist, bullies if we make jokes about Margaret Thatcher ?

Let's hear the joke so we can decide.

 

[Wilf]

Agree with what? The cheap cheap attempt to say that at least I'm not # fill in own example here#? If so, what other sort of jokes (in fact what sort of actions) does this justify by not seeming that important to a Syrian? Pretty much everything short of mass slaughter. What shit lazy bullying logic.

Anything that's not as bad as Auchwitz is fine...

 

[Wilf]

Just for the record, are we misogynist, sexist, bullies if we make jokes about Margaret Thatcher ?

If it's sexist or mysogynist, that's what it is. Plenty of other ways of attacking Thatcher than her gender.

Edit: to make an obvious point, a lot of comedy is about transgression, it can even be that collective intake of breath when you see lines being stretched, broken and redrawn. That process can't ben pinned down and is dynamic. However there are some comedians - just as there are commentators novelists or whoever - who just spend a career doing petty outrage, full stop. Boyle seems to have long since tipped over into that. Ultimately, he and the Daily Mail feed off each other, but the fact that the Mail hate (i.e. love) him is irrelevant to me. Comedy isn't in a sphere beyond response. Just like the racist, sexist shite of an earlier generation of 'comedians', we are fuly entitled to point out his (different) shite.

 

[Corax]

no he's a comedian, you and others pushing for certain types of comedy to be censored because it don't meet your exacting standards are in fact the bullies by dictating what a wider audience should or should not be exposed too in terms of your personal taste ...

If you don't like it turn: it off/ it over/away from it

don't seek to censor others by the standards of your own pedestrian sense of humour...

Hmm.

Does that apply to all comedy, or is there a line? Are 'paki jokes' okay, but people just have to ignore them if they don't like them?

And if not, aren't you just drawing the line in a different place from others?

ETA: The Boyle gag itself is storminnateacup stuff

 

[RaverDrew]

How is Frankie Boyle saying that she has a face like a dolphin an attack on her gender ?

"I worry that Rebecca Adlington will have an unfair advantage in the swimming by possessing a dolphin's face"

"I worry that Usain Bolt will have an unfair advantage in the sprinting by possessing a gazelle's legs"

It's a really shit joke, but gender doesn't come into it imo.

 

[gabi]

Perspective people. He made a gag about the size of someone's nose.

 

[scooter]

I hate jokes about what people look like. There's nothing they can do about that and who cares anyway

 

[Fedayn]

I used to defend Boyle, I still like a good bit of his comedy, he is, however, sadly becoming more of a 'shock jock' rather than a comedian these days.

As for the desperate defence of this particualy bit of his comedy, I mean it's almost as if they'll be stopping us telling nigger, paki, yid and spastic jokes next....

 

[Wilf]

I used to defend Boyle, I still like a good bit of his comedy, he is, however, sadly becoming more of a 'shock jock' rather than a comedian these days.

That says it rather better than I did in the windy paragraph above.

As for the desperate defence of this particualy bit of his comedy, I mean it's almost as if they'll be stopping us telling nigger, paki, yid and spastic jokes next...

It's comedy, all comedy!

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

I appreciate that someone making lots of money fame and attention out of acting a humourless vitriolic arsehole is some sort of idol to you, but honestly the rest of us will call something shit if it indeed is.

You confuse peoples mocking of his output as if denying it exists on any 'comedy' spectrum, then come out with the shite like you "don't understand it" which is as predictable as one of his appearances on Mock the Week.

Like I said, some sort of idol and 'legend' to guys like you. Just saying most of us have seen it all before. Hence it's pretty shite IMO.

Tell me about guys like me ted, in full detail. you can give me a detailed description of my day if you will as well as my humour influence through out

yeah ted cos you know me ...

It has zero to do with hero worship and everything from understanding the vein of comedy which bolye does... what his schtick is... and you're right its obvious and transparent. he's clearly going at all times for the shock humour factor which within comedy is still the purest type of laugh you'll get, as most comics agree. The Ha return from the laughing into horror into guilt is the most effective at getting ones point across...

Thats his aim every time, and unlike most he's surprisingly quick and accurate at doing so, and genuinely doens't give a fuck if it misses the mark or upsets people. The cache for that kind of joke is, is it funny? if it is all other things are secondary to this, as they should be, if it's shocking secondly then all the more funny, people will lauch and then feel guilty about laughing at something which they've then been made complicit in and they'll go away and think about it ... and it works look at your cow like reaction to it... moo horrendous, moo disgusting, moo a thousand other knees a-jerking, moo boyles done something it's outrageous and unfunny, moo he's really repulsive, moo, anyone who disagrees that he's not the most offensive thing on the planet is a shill, a stooge, or just hero worshiping, moo...

Well done bovine boy, go and get milked now eh... you clearly don't understand comedy, how it's written or the standards (not as in kite mark as in traditional modes of) the art form...

but rest assured for you, mr ted, the joke is over...

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Let's hear the joke so we can decide.

but you're not using your standards at all are you captain censor... you've got published and accepted critera for this which is availbe for all to download prior to your judgement or is this again a personal taste argument where you insist on being absolutitist... it isn't it...

so much for me being dishonest... you can't even recognise your own actions...

go on call me dishonest for stating you using your evaluational skill set not known either internally to urban or externally to the wider world as being a comedian or comic critic or indeed based on anything other than your own evaluation would be you attempt to censor comedy which doesn't chime with your own sense humour...

 

[Corax]

Gotta say though, he did a damn fine job with the Opening Ceremony.

 

[Ted Striker]

Tell me about guys like me ted, in full detail. you can give me a detailed description of my day if you will as well as my humour influence through out

yeah ted cos you know me ...

It has zero to do with hero worship and everything from understanding the vein of comedy which bolye does... what his schtick is... and you're right its obvious and transparent. he's clearly going at all times for the shock humour factor which within comedy is still the purest type of laugh you'll get, as most comics agree. The Ha return from the laughing into horror into guilt is the most effective at getting ones point across...

Thats his aim every time, and unlike most he's surprisingly quick and accurate at doing so, and genuinely doens't give a fuck if it misses the mark or upsets people. The cache for that kind of joke is, is it funny? if it is all other things are secondary to this, as they should be, if it's shocking secondly then all the more funny, people will lauch and then feel guilty about laughing at something which they've then been made complicit in and they'll go away and think about it ... and it works look at your cow like reaction to it... moo horrendous, moo disgusting, moo a thousand other knees a-jerking, moo boyles done something it's outrageous and unfunny, moo he's really repulsive, moo, anyone who disagrees that he's not the most offensive thing on the planet is a shill, a stooge, or just hero worshiping, moo...

Well done bovine boy, go and get milked now eh... you clearly don't understand comedy, how it's written or the standards (not as in kite mark as in traditional modes of) the art form...

but rest assured for you, mr ted, the joke is over...

So basically if I think David Guetta makes shit house music I don't understand it?

He's just a bit of a twat, built to enrage Daily Mail readers and entertain school kids, and evoke criticism from me. Meh etc.

(Boyle, not Guetta)

 

[poului]

For those of you who haven't bothered to read the whole article...

He caused further offence by returning to the subject in the same show, saying: "When she arrived back on the flight she met her boyfriend. Did you see her boyfriend? He was really attractive. He was like a male model. So from that I have deduced that Rebecca Adlington is very dirty."

Charming.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

I used to defend Boyle, I still like a good bit of his comedy, he is, however, sadly becoming more of a 'shock jock' rather than a comedian these days.

As for the desperate defence of this particualy bit of his comedy, I mean it's almost as if they'll be stopping us telling nigger, paki, yid and spastic jokes next....

that's going to fuck alot of disabled, jewish, black, pakistaini comics if we do... oh wait it's not ok for them to joke about these topics either is it... oh no cos the censor squad of urbans liberal weelite have spoken...

 

[poului]

No one's suggested he should be "censored". They've just reserved the right to call him out for being such a bellend.

 

[The Boy]

I'll ask you again, even though I know you won't answer. Can you show one example from this thread of someone calling fro censorship?

Edit: we both know you can't. You're just being a whining troll as always.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

So basically if I think David Guetta makes shit house music I don't understand it?

He's just a bit of a twat, built to enrage Daily Mail readers and entertain school kids, and evoke criticism from me. Meh etc.

(Boyle, not Guetta)

if you think it's shit that's fine when you think it's outragous what you're really saying is I'm offended by this imaginary line in personal tastes and if you're not offended with me I'm against you...

well maybe you need to stop taking offense for others, and even if you are offended so fucking what... be offended....

 

[butchersapron]

No one's suggested he should be "censored". They've just reserved the right to call him out for being such a bellend.

In fact, the only person calling for censorship on this thread is little lord fauntleroy.

 

[Corax]

that's going to fuck alot of disabled, jewish, black, pakistaini comics if we do... oh wait it's not ok for them to joke about these topics either is it... oh no cos the censor squad of urbans liberal weelite have spoken...

You really can't see the difference?

 

[Wilf]

You really can't see the difference?

Exactly, gender, disability, they are all proper topics for comedy. Like anything else though, it's a case of what you say and with what intent. Roy Chubby Brown might exist in the exalted bubble of comedy, but I still feel I'm just about justified in calling him a racist cunt. Oh, hang on - is that censorship?

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

You really can't see the difference?

seeing the diffrence doesn't mean you think the diffrence matters. (possibly)