Firebox run by Counterfire: Champagne socialism.

[Nice one]

everyone just enters one-by-one over a period of about half an hour, consumes what they ordered then writes furiously about it afterwards on this thread. Flash arry.

 

[Nice one]

Are you a middle manager Nice one?

the worse kind apparently

 

[Tom A]

everyone just enters one-by-one over a period of about half an hour, consumes what they ordered then writes furiously about it afterwards on this thread. Flash arry.

I wonder if it's all vegan? Or if they even have any vegan options? If this was hippy pseudo-anarchists I would attempt asking if they had something meaty and/or cowjuicy, but don't think that's going to work with them, since they are a bit removed from that sort of thing.

 

[butchersapron]

the worse kind apparently

Can't take the pressure. Only applies to other people.

 

[Nice one]

Can't take the pressure. Only applies to other people.

too cryptic for me

 

[butchersapron]

too cryptic for me

You invented the idea of anarchist middle managers. Now that you are one it's all just a laugh. Do you stick by your analysis or not?

 

[Nice one]

You invented the idea of anarchist middle managers. Now that you are one it's all just a laugh. Do you stick by your analysis or not?

you do remember! Your grapevine is wrong though

 

[butchersapron]

you do remember! Your grapevine is wrong though

Yeah. It is. What are you, top management now?

 

[Nice one]

Yeah. It is. What are you, top management now?

i've no idea what you're on about. Be specific. Happy to help out on 39 step's allotment when he retires though

 

[butchersapron]

i've no idea what you're on about. Be specific. Happy to help out on 39 step's allotment when he retires though

Are you going to use your own scale of anarchist management or not? Where would you place yourself if you used that scale?

 

[SpineyNorman]

I wonder if it's all vegan? Or if they even have any vegan options? If this was hippy pseudo-anarchists I would attempt asking if they had something meaty and/or cowjuicy, but don't think that's going to work with them, since they are a bit removed from that sort of thing.

They do serve meat - I had meatballs and very nice they were too (not as good as me mum's though)

 

[Idris2002]

oi idris, whats the story with the new avatar ?

is that some sort of turkish yoke ? Please elucidate me when you get the time.

It's the symbol of my present home town - Halle am der Saale. I don't know what the story is behind the crescent and the two stars, as we're well north of Vienna, which is as far as the Turks got, as you know.

 

[Tom A]

They do serve meat - I had meatballs and very nice they were too (not as good as me mum's though)

Damn, I really wanted them to do the stereotypical activist grand slam and bar all animal products "for the sake of teh animalz!" Instead that counts as one thing it its favour, as (supposedly) left-wing enterprises go.

 

[Nice one]

Are you going to use your own scale of anarchist management or not? Where would you place yourself if you used that scale?

you're being more cryptic. My own scale is: posh lads who went to private school and had all the class privilege that their background afforded them [imagine an anarchist laurie penny if you will]. Other than that no idea what yr on about, go and check your gossip source.

 

[butchersapron]

you're being more cryptic. My own scale is: posh lads who went to private school and had all the class privilege that their background afforded them [imagine an anarchist laurie penny if you will]. Other than that no idea what yr on about, go and check your gossip source.

No gossip - you invented a scale on which existed anarchist middle managers. How do you stack up to whatever your scale was?

 

[Nice one]

No gossip - you invented a scale on which existed anarchist middle managers. How do you stack up to whatever your scale was?

okay i measue 3 on the scale that i invented.

 

[DrRingDing]

if you cant beat em

oh dear

 

[butchersapron]

okay i measue 3 on the scale that i invented.

What does that mean? What's the top end?

 

[DrRingDing]

Isn't she meant to be really annoying in real life?

She seems alright. Politically blinkered mind.

 

[DrRingDing]

that bird beside her with the megaphone just looks sooooo stereotypical lefty. Every box ticked . Harry potter with a palestinian scarf and hi viz vest...the ennnui simply engulfs one

A wet liberal unknowingly wearing the colours of a the PFLP.

 

[Nice one]

What does that mean? What's the top end?

dunno. Your gonna have to pull something off your hard drive from 10 years ago or reassess who your london gossip provider is, either way you're still trying too hard.

 

[frogwoman]

A wet liberal unknowingly wearing the colours of a the PFLP.

I have a pslestinian scarf in my cupboard

 

[Tom A]

I have a pslestinian scarf in my cupboard

I am proud to say that I have never owned or worn a keffiyeh in my life

 

[frogwoman]

I am proud to say that I have never owned or worn a keffiyeh in my life

ZIONIST!

 

[frogwoman]

It kind of pisses me off how people would complain about people wearing the Palestinian scarf that they'd bought from places like Claires Accessories etc, "with no idea of what it meant".

 

[thedockerslad]

What does that mean? What's the top end?

you.

 

[Tom A]

It kind of pisses me off how people would complain about people wearing the Palestinian scarf that they'd bought from places like Claires Accessories etc, "with no idea of what it meant".

I have a friend who comes from a Hindu background, also gets annoyed at hippies whom have the "Om" symbol emblazoned on their clothing without any though into its meaning, making it like their version of the Nike swoosh. This is where I think the critics of cultural appropriation have a point.

There was also this story a while back:

Police in southern China have discovered a factory manufacturing Free Tibet flags, media reports say.
The factory in Guangdong had been completing overseas orders for the flag of the Tibetan government-in-exile.
Workers said they thought they were just making colourful flags and did not realise their meaning.

I'm sure plenty of people buy those flags just because to boost their hippie/hipster street cred, without any thought or care into the significance of that flag or any real concern for the plight of the Tibetan people. See also, Che Guevara, the CND symbol.

 

[frogwoman]

I have a friend who comes from a Hindu background, also gets annoyed at hippies whom have the "Om" symbol emblazoned on their clothing without any though into its meaning, making it like their version of the Nike swoosh. This is where I think the critics of cultural appropriation have a point.

There was also this story a while back:



I'm sure plenty of people buy those flags just because to boost their hippie/hipster street cred, without any thought or care into the significance of that flag or any real concern for the plight of the Tibetan people. See also, Che Guevara, the CND symbol.

yeah, fair enough.

Claires Accessories have also sold properly dodgy stuff in the past, like Iron Crosses and that sort of shit, and I remember some "surfing" shops used to sell necklaces with swirly curved swastikas. Probably a lot of the people buying didn't know what they meant, but even so

 

[Tom A]

yeah, fair enough.

Claires Accessories have also sold properly dodgy stuff in the past, like Iron Crosses and that sort of shit, and I remember some "surfing" shops used to sell necklaces with swirly curved swastikas. Probably a lot of the people buying didn't know what they meant, but even so

Take it this was in the UK. I know that in many Asian countries the swastika is a pretty common symbol which doesn't have the same problematic associations as in Europe.

BTW the Iron Cross is still used as a military decoration in Germany today.

 

[frogwoman]

BTW the Iron Cross is still used as a military decoration in Germany today.

Yeah, its a bit weird/off it being sold in a shop for teenage girls tho, rather than for german members of the military